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  1. Hahaha, I kinda see it and sometimes I think he looks pretty good, but it's not my taste personally. It's like Brad Pitt. I always knew he was good looking, and sometimes there was swoony picture here and there, but otherwise he was not my personal brannd of good looking. Hahahaha don't worry @SilverMoonTea I'm not a diehard for this drama either and I know what you mean. I like that everyone has a new crack drama, but I wish I was on that level of excitement too! Are you only watching one dating show???
  2. Episodes 3-4 I actually feel like this drama has grown more on me this week even though it's not a crack drama for me. I think what I really like is how it shows the dynamics of how a relationship can grow apart but also how a relationship can repair. Hae In's character never shows any weakness or vulnerability, probably as a defence mechanism from her mother being so cruel to her. But you can't truly get close to another person, particularly your partner, if all you do is close up, stonewall or keep a fence around you. Showing weakness or sadness, espeically when there's been a sad event like losing a child, makes people bond closer together. It's kind of like when you become friends with people - it's not because they were always the coolest, smartest etc person you knew. It's because you went on a school trip together and got lost. Or they told you a secret, or their hopes and dreams - things that were vulnerable, and you felt like you were close because they trusted you and vice versa. So I like how this drama explores all of that as the key to repairing their relationship While I think I'm still a little meh about Hyun Woo's flipping between hoping she'll die for his freedom and feeling protective over her, I did really like the montage of his imagination of a life where he'd be forced to be at family arguments, bossed around by his wife and wearing an apron crying while oil sprays on his hands as he's forced to fry food I also really liked how Hae In turned up for his family when the sister texted her asking for her help in showing support and saving face. It's so imposible/ riddiculous in someways, but I think I like seeing this grand gesture of Hae In's warmth when she was such a frosty person at the start. I also think her character definitely has some of the traditionally 'masucline' traits - as in, she has been to told or asked to show her affection, whereas Hyun Woo expects her to read his mind and just be empathetic. Hae In is always asking Hyun Woo to be more direct and tell her what he wants. But he always feels like he can never say it outright (which makes him part of the problem too since he's trying to people please or doesn't want to rock the boat ) I feel like this is to be expected of all the big budget Kdramas with lead actors to be honest. It just gives me the same feels as things like Crash Landing or It's Ok to Not Be Ok . But you're right, it's fun to be reminded you are watching a Kdrama Mannn, I looooved Dr Slump and I'll miss it now that it's over. But the wedding photos were adorable!!! I liked learning bout these things - I totally missed these tidbits. On a related but unrelated note, I am super creeped out by that picture of a girl's face Hae In has in her room?! What even is that??? Yes, I think this paragraph is beautifully written and probably one of things I find that draws me to this drama. Grandpa's girlfriend is not in the scheming meeting with the gossipy lady or the evil second lead, but she's definitely planning something with the evil guy. I feel sorry for grandpa. He's not the best person, but his family is messed up because of the wealth he accumulated and he's lonely (which is how he's being preyed on by the girlfriend)...but isn't this the story of every old rich guy?
  3. Episodes 5-8 Finally caught up on this last night. I haved started to enjoy this drama a bit more from episode 6 because there was less jargon! Episode 5 by contrast felt like I'd been at a work meeting in a corporate place (my work meetings are not even half as corporate!!! ) But the murder and then the twist have been fun because the pacing is faster and now all the characters are on crack. With that said, I defnitely still started falling asleep at the end of last episode because this drama is not totally my style (sorry LJW!) I agree with @abs-oluteM that TaeOh's biiggest mistake wasn't even falling for HyeWon (though that was not the greatest move either ). It was assuming In Ha was a good person. Although I feel like there was always signs - when they met In Ha was the prime bully at school. I also thought it was so quick from him to transition from bully to friend, but he played dumb and friendly knowing he could use Tae Oh's skills to get into the family, so I can see why Tae Oh believe him (I also forgot he started out as a bully so was genuinely confused when the dark side came out ) And then the other sign was that he immediately said that he liked the same girl as TaeOh as soon as he had connfirmed TaeOh was checking her out. I mean, I'm sure that happens sometimes, but from what I know of my guy friends who are close to each other, isn't there generally a bit of a code where people try to help their friends or avoid crushing on their friend's crushes even if they catch feelings?! Hmm, I don't know if there's love per say but there's something else going on there too. But I think aside from Tae Oh, he also wanted to 'win' her. I still feel like he was jealous when he pictured Tae Oh and Hyewon getting it on. Hyewon is a prize that he feels like he dooesn't quite own, no matter how much money he throws at her or how much branding he's done via engagement and marriage certificate etc He just seems like a narciscist Yeah I hope he can help, though to be honest, he is also pretty fragile and I feel like he could die in the process. I believe that's likely to happen since an heir is part of the title I agree with you both! I feel like this might be LJW's weakest pick of projcts yet. I can deal with dislikeable characters, but it's hard when everyone is dislikeable and it's because they are all in it for themselves. This K-drama world feels so cold and cruel. I suppose with Tae Oh and Hywon it's a case of the users being used. In defence of Tae Oh - While I won't say I cared much for Tae Oh as a character (though he is a fine looking LJW character ) Tae Oh never harmed In Ha in how he used him. It was like a business transaction in which both benefited from the deal. Whereas In Ha wants Tae Oh dead, which is pure evil Yeah...no to a season 2 I want my boy to pick a project with a more interesting storyline. Though I don't mind if they style him like how they styled him here
  4. Hahaha am I so forgetable? I've been around more consistently lately! Haha I'm still on episode 7. Now I'm trying to balance Queen of Tears / The Impossible Heir / Doctor Slump etc It's going to be on indefinite hiatus for awhile He's so beautiful! This drama has been hard work though- too much business jargon and dislikeable characters. BUT episode 6 was not bad - the pacing picked up and it was more iinteresting. It's starting to get more exciting. I just want to know what happens with the murder of the annoying first brother! Speaking of Lee Jae Wook, I think you once asked me once on a thread how the film Kill Bok Soon was (film that LJW cameo'ed in) since you said you don't often watch Korean films compared to dramas. I always wanted to reply, but I don't think I did. I'm not sure if you ended up watchiing it. I liked the premise of a world with assain guilds etc and the main character being an assasin that found killing people easier than raising a teenage daughter. The film turned out to be a bit too overdramatic to me, but I really llike LJW's cameo. He plays the younger version of a character (head of assasins) who falls in love with Bok Soon when they're teenagers. It happens when he is going to kill her dad, but then she agrees he should do it nonchalantly. He looks so floored when she agrees to it and they play this happy old school song and it's just clear that he's in love ('This guy's in love with you' by Herb Alpert). It was such a strange scene but really worked in this drama. Wait. What's wrong with his hair?! More responses later. Gotta do some stuff
  5. Oooh maybe I should catch up on his dramas, he seems quite the eye candy. I think if I wasn't busy watching LJW in the current drama, I would totally be like this guy is something Lonely and angsty characters = probably how he pulls the heartstrings of his fans
  6. Episodes 12-15 I really LOVE this drama the most out of everything I've been watching, so I feel a little bad that I haven't written as much here! I have noticed that I tend to write a lot for dramas where I'm less satisifed than satisfied post-pandemic probably because I have limited time now and need to analyse and process the things I have troubles with I haven't watched the last episode yet, but I just wanted to say episodes 12-15 were done pretty well in my opinion. The warmth and humour of the episodes really made me laugh out loud particularly the friiendship scenes between the main 4 characters, most particularly between Jeong Woo and Dr. Bin. There's something heartwarming about the way those guys are like competitive and fight like giirls with the hair pulling, but also really have a strong brotherly bond. As much as I love the super extra and pretty Jeong woo version of Park Hyung Sik, I also really like the daggy dad version of Yoon Park. Hahaha, I feel like Dr Bin's cringey character could have been too much if played by someone else, but Yoon Park has a way of being just daggy enough to be laughable, but just charming enough for you to accept the dagginess. I honestly think it's been a good role for him! Also I'm so happy he's getting the girl in this drama @abs-oluteM though I expected this would be the way from the start (I think it was abs I was complaining to a long time ago but Yoon Park being made to play a villain and not get the girl in a few dramas ) I really like the pacing of this show because while depressing things happen, I don't feel like there's been a lot of drag. It's been really fast to resolve misunderstandings. And the reactions to events are just right. When Kyung Min died, I liked that Jeong Woo had trouble processing everything and they showed his depression in a balanced way. He didn't speedily forgive Kyung Min and be an unrealistically bigger person when it would have been hard to have been, he didn't throw a tantrum and blame his parents (even though they're really cold and horrible people), he didn't take out his annger on the female lead (which seemed to be the normal way in old dramas) - he actually cried and talked through his feelings and was conflicted with missing the good parts of his friend while feeling hurt annd resentful for the betrayal. I thought that was so well done. And like @mademoiselle was tearing up a little at the talk with Ha Neul's mum. The romance between the 2 leads is cute. Sometimes they're so silly, but this is still in the territory of humour I enjoy where the leads have slightly exaggerated play flights, but not too dramatic. I like the way they suupport each other and fight to make time for each other. And also Park Hyung Sik totally has the best gaze out of all the male leads...the way he looks at Ha Neul At the end of Episode 15 when he asks Ha Neul to pretend she has night shift, that was a total swoon I thought they were going to let Park Shin Hye off from doing these kinds of scenes since there wasn't a lot of kissing to begin with, but I guess not
  7. Did you end up watching Exhuma @mademoiselle and was it good? Hahaha, I think Chun Song Yi was still cold in My Love From the Stars, but like diva-cold (ie. the kind to act emotional whhen it comes to tantrums, but not when it comes to being friendly.) Do Ming Joon was more stoic cold. I don't know if I feel like he's completely like CSY, but I can see where he's coming from Hahaha, sometimes I think my tastes in dramas are a bit more like yours and Tofu's when it comes to dramas like this. Like you though, I'll probably still watch. Even though it's not fully my kind of drama, there's something alluring about big romance dramas that star big actors. Kim Soo Hyun dramas always give me this kind of feeling - it's like I know I'm not going to be hardcore swept up in the fandom completely, but I enjoy going for the ride. Besides all the dreamy romance scenes are nice. Second lead is innteresting not because I like him, but because he brings out the protective instinct in Hyun Woo. Hahaha I feel like you're not going to last @SilverMoonTea - even when you're excited, I'm not sure when you'll get bored and change your mind. So when you're not excited to begin with, I could allmost bet money on the outcome
  8. Hahaha Thanks for letting me know I could watch this by myself @Chocolate ...And I did too! I finished this a few weeks ago and enjoyed it. I thought it was a fun watch. I think it was a bit silly with the superhero side of it, but I think I enjoyed the weird coincidences of everyone CWS killing being evil themselves. I suppose it was a bit like that American drama Dexter except that CWS was a bit like a superhero? He had spidey senses. Ooooh how come you don't like CWS? I think he picks decent projects though he's not adopted by me. I think he tends to have a typecast/ fallback character of being a deadbeat/ slacker type of guy Hahaha I don't think CWS was meant to be a hero - more like an anti-hero. Heroes are people who do things that involve sacrifice and not for their own benefit. CWS's character in this did stuff to make himself have a life purpose and those things were questionable even though the people kinda deserved their karma points
  9. Episode 1-2 Once in awhile I'll watch one of the big dramas and this one has made it on my radar. I tend to watch most Kim Soo Hyun projects because he's a good actor and is nice eye candy. However, I do feel like he's oddly type cast in the romance dramas he stars in - the formula for his main romances have him as a gentle, warm and slightly stoic-on-the-outside guy with a very cold and often rich love interest (It's Okay to Not Be Okay, My Love from Another Star). I think it'd be nice to see him in a project where his love interest was a bit more realistic? A bit more unique? But this one is sticking to the same pattern I will say that Kim Soo Hyun is a good actor and so watching him is always a treat (I really liked him in his movie roles like Secrety Greatly and I think he did comedy really well there). He's not even a main Oppa for me (I like him, just not as big a fan as others), but I can see what all the fuss is about. As for this drama, I think I'll go on watching so far because it's an interesting dynamic and I want to know if she'll end up living or dying. And it's nice to see them rekindle their romance and realise how important they are to each other. But if I'm honest, I've not warmed to the story yet. I think it might be because they had a very condensed explaination about their relationship in the opening that I don't really feel anything. Like I couldn't really tell you why they liked each other aside from the fact they both thought the other was pretty. There's not a real build up to their relationship - I didn't see them acting nicely to each other aside from a kissing montage and so I don't feel like there's been a change. I suspect they'll show this while the series goes on, but so far I don't empathise with either character just yet (I think @SilverMoonTea or @Tofu may have said this and I kinda agree). This feeling goes further since both characters aren't particularly likeable yet - as discussed Hyun Woo's behaviour in over-compensating to be nice to his wife while secretly happy that she's dying so he can be free and maybe inherit something is not the greatest, though I look forward to seeing how it'll backfire on him. As for Hae In, I get that she's had a cold, rich-person upbringing and has her defences up all the time...but it's difficult watching such a frosty character. I like warm people, so I need her to thraw out and not be so frosty The disease she's suffering from also seems very fantastical. In a way, it gives me the same vibes It's Okay to Not Be Okay had dealing with mental health. But perhaps it makes it more exciting and less morbid given that disease/fatal illness dramas can be very depressing when made to look realistic. Hahaha, yes, I often have free tickets to watch Korean films through work etc. I've seen the trailers for Exhuma, but it looks scary!! It's horror right? I avoid horror if I can unless it's a zombie movie Are you going to watch it?
  10. What cruel fans. But it is true that in the first 2 episodes there were a lot of drunken tears Hahaha this was my favourite part - the male in laws being treated the way that most women are treated in Korea. Finally, seeing men getting a taste of their own medicine in partaking in the in-law traditions I definitely felt that Hyun Woo was not that likeable. I mean while he's not entirely evil and some of his misery about his cold and demanding in laws is completely fair, he's also not a good person in that I feel like he's taken the coward's way out. Also, he's being slightly opportunistic in the the fact he does sort of think about her will as well I definitely feel like she's going to find out about these hurtful things later (given that he had prepared the divorce papers with dates and told his friends and family that he was going to divorce her...someone is going to let something slip!) I'm shocked!!! Hahaha I thought I was the only busy one.
  11. Hello! So quiet lately! Where is everyone? Are you adopting anyone @SilverMoonTea? I know @Tofu is on holidays. I have still tagged though because I've caught up on all the episodes of Eye Love You that has been shown on Netflix and I have to say Dammmn, Chae Jong Hyeop has such killer charm in that series. Also like topless scene in episode 2 (which turned out to be a dream) was v. expected! I'm suprisingly enjoying though I feel like the female lead'ss resistence to getting into the actual relationship gets a little exasperating. But Chae Jong Hyeop is slaying meeee. I wish they gave him these sorts of roles in Kdramas because the boy can pull both puppy dog and protective guy pretty well Any way I don't think I saw a thread on this drama, so I've just written it here since it's about one of my favourite Oppas. Did you end up watching this drama @mademoiselle? But I think I've been falling back for old Oppas. I'm dying from Dr Slump because it both Park Hyung Sik and Yoon Park being so endearing. I actually don't know which one I like more. Clearly I'm having no ttrouble loving 4 Oppas at once (4th Oppa refers to LJW who is looking pretty in The Impossible Heir though I'm not loving the drama as much as I wanted to)
  12. Episodes 3 & 4 I agree with you @mademoiselle - kind of a shame because till now, I felt really drawn to all of LJW's projects. I always felt like he picked really great storylines. Even in the dramas where even if he played a dislikeable character like a bully, the characters had great depth and nuance and there were warm friendships and good pacing. So far, with this drama, it feels very cold? I know it's in part because it's a genre I don't particularly like (ie. the gold-digger, cut-throat work politics, ambition climbing type drama). But also all the characters seem very dislikeable, but the story itself is quite complicated and involves a lot of focusing on schemes. I feel like I'm actually working sometimes when watching drama because if I don't pay attention for a bit, I don't know who's backstabbing who So I guess I feel like this has probably been the weakest of LJW's projects that I've seen. Visually he looks very cool, but I'm hoping the story and drama gets better. I didn't mind that it was a Tae Ho centric episode, since it's LJW and also since his character seems to be the only one doing most of the scheming. I can see the powerplay with the relationships, but I don't feel like Inha or Hyewon do much even though they want stakes in Kangoh. It's like they're all riding on Taeoh's genius? But it doesn't feel like they're working as a team in any way and that's kind of hard to include things like humour or inspiration in this Kdrama because the characters are not exactly 'fun' to observe. @mademoiselle it seems kind of strange that InHa's father would accept a plot under his nose, but then again, I suppose all his sons are dispicable that maybe he would accept Tae Oh and Inha who he secretly sees as more talented and more worthy of being his succesors than his first 2 sons? I also think this type of scary rich business man is the type to keep his friends close, but his enemies closer, so if he thought Taeoh was a thread he would definitely keep an eye on him at close range. However in doing that I think he's making the mistake of relying on him too much (since he has no one else) as first son pointed out.
  13. It's interesting because the internet seems to really want Taeh Ho and Hui Ju o be a couple - I see a lot of fans rooting for Huiju. I think because she obviously goes crazy for him and no one wants Lee Jae Wook to not get the girl again since he killed us all as a second lead in Extraordinary You I like the Tae Ho and In Ha scenes when they first became friends. But I'm disappointed that all of them like Hyewon, whether it's genuine or a powerplay. It seems she'll highlight the toxicity into their friendships Yeah, I see a lot of comments from viewers about how much they don't like her character and how they hope she won't end up with either of the guys. I don't think any one is empathising with her because she seems as bad as her mother - isn't she just looking for someone to leech off to relieve herself from her problems? I think often the hardworking poor girl trope is empathised with because we see the girl trying not to leech off a guy, but to work her own way out of her financial problems. This is just gold-diggery to me
  14. You're right, the editing was choppy and I found myself a bit unsure of what was happening for a long while because it took several episodes before they really gave Frank's backstory. They just sort of kepy introducing new people with powers who were having epic gory battles, but not showing how they were really connected beyond them all having super powers. It was kind of repetitive for awhile. I started getting more into it around episode 7 but then a whole bunch of new dramas came out which I cared about more so I didn't really continue. I'll probably continue when I'm in between dramas, but it's one of those weird "not-quite-dropped" dramas at the moment I feel like Disney isn't quite picking the best porjects, though they spend their money marketing a lot of these. Even with The Impossible Heir, I feel like it's not the most riveting watch. It's so political and there's so many characters I don't care about and I find myself really having to concentrate when I watch so that I understand what cut throat plan is being executed. But with that said, I'm still engaaged enough to continue, since I'm curious about what will happen. And gotta support my boy Go Young Jun and Kim Seon Ho. Hmm, I'm sure it'll be popular. But I dunno. I recently watched The Childe (the movie which kept Kim Seon Ho while other projects were dropping him. It also stars Go Ara). And it wasn't too bad surprisingly. I'll probably still watch this project, but I just still feel the ick unfortunately. Hahaha I'd go to a RW concert or fan meet for sure! Even though he's not in my top tier, I do like him and definitely enough to want to see him in person if he ever sets foot down in Australia. I'd go to Sydney too because I enjoy taking a trip there when there's an event to go to. I feel like I only ever go to Sydney when there's something on otherwise it's just like Melbourne, only more corporate-big city vibes. Haha, if you ever hear of it happening, let me know Yeah same same. I don't think I know people who are this into Kdramas except you guys. I think Kpop is more dominent. I know lots of hardcore Kpop fans. I have a few friends who are into Korean celebrities and oppas and love going to fan meets, but they like Boys Love dramas more. One of those friends actually moved to Korea to live and she's practially seen everyone. Maybe it's because most Kdrama people are introverts (seeing as watching TV is quite a homebody/passive activity)...and the ones who are extroverts just hide their true selves because they don't want to be judged if others are not into it? Hahaha how do you avoid all of the fan dramas??? Do you follow any of the hardcore fan accounts? I think the only way you would miss it is if you don't follow those fan accounts I guess. Or maybe accounts with people who post alot? My Twitter is only for kdrama stuff so I guess I see a lot more than the average twitterer. And also when I'm into a certain drama or celeb, I suppose I'll follow all the related accounts that post decent stuff. From that I feel like there's always something happeing. Sometimes it's all really positive stuff like fans organising food trucks or giving freebies to other fans. But sometimes it's fan wars and complaints to some massive fan news. RE: LJW and Karina. Did you see that she had to post an apology letter to her fans for dating LJW?! This is why i think I was telling @abs-oluteM that I think a lot of the crazy rumours surrounding LJW were coming from the Kpop fans. From LJW's side, I think most of the fans I've encountered have had either a positive or neutral reaction to the news. But I've seen a number of more polarised comments from the Kpop side - people either love it or really hate it. I assume they either don't watch Kdramas and don't know the appeal and charisma of LJW since he's not the conventional beautiful Kpop looking type of guy or they just have a bias against him because he's not who they wanted her to date. Either way, it seems unfair for her to have to do that when LJW is a pretty attractive and decent actor to date (as far as I know)! https://www.straitstimes.com/life/entertainment/aespa-s-karina-apologises-for-surprising-fans-with-lee-jae-wook-dating-news https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/korean-soloist-reacts-aespa-karna-apology-letter-lee-jae-wook/ hahaha does Jun always play the villain or loney characer @Tofu? I've never seen any of his past works, but your boy is growing on me. He's kind of cute . Also can someone give me the spoilers for My Name is Loh Kiwan...can't be stuffed watching it, but am curious as to why it's depressing but has a happy ending?! What a combo
  15. I must make this thread pretty soon! Anyway I watched eps 1-2 Episodes 1-2 Admittedly, these chaebol ambition-cutthroat dramas with love triangles are not usually my thing. But the story is intriguing enough and I want to understand all the characters better. I feel really sorry for Jun's character because he's so cute and likeable, but everyone around him eiither sees him as a threat and are cold to him or sees him as a golden rope and are using him, whether he knows it or not. Haha the relationships are confusing. Jun is the one chasing LJW and doing aegyo all the time But I find the transitions a biit puzzling - he goes from I hate him to I love him so quickly! Maybe they condensed it because more of the story is in the future. However, the friendships are very rocky. I mean, what kind of a friend startss developing an interest in a girl when he knows that hs friend is very interested in her??? But I suppose they agreed it was more of a partnership and all is fair in love and war. Hong Su Zu is very pretty. But I feel like her character is going to be annoying. I'm not a fan of these 'I like one guy but have to be with another guy' type scenarios. But I suppose deperation will make you do anything Anyway, watching a rocky frienship getting fractured by a girl is going to have is moments. I hope she's not the cause of the openning scene with LJW seeming killing people!
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