Vanusa

While people love and extol Mouse's script, I just applaud LSG's performances. For what was required of him. I see no difference between the crazy Secretary and Choi Ran. In the end, after all the shit, they approved mandatory abortion for positive tested genes, even though "Yo Hans" may exist. Even though the women who will pass the tests suffer for not wanting to kill their children (throughout the series all mothers tried to kill their children later.) What a perverse script that encourages the suicide of a woman who went wrong because of the damn circumstances she went through pushed into it. Nobody had mercy on her. It seems like an affront to talk about mental health and therapy precisely in a story about psychopathy. The story presents various contexts, about nature versus creation, innate psychopaths, prejudice, in order to endorse that a unique way is to kill babies. Message of total hopelessness for society. After these same artists and writers will regret on social media when someone commits suicide because of pressure from society and lack of empathy.

So will we have a final episode on Wednesday, and on Thursday, backstage, some scenes not shown and an alternate ending? LOL ... Funny, as for me, it seems that Vagabond with 16 episodes seemed more extensive than Mouse that if you count, it will go to 23, or 24 in total. It seems that so many repetitions have made the drama seem smaller than it really is.

When and I ask, if Bareum would be different if it weren't for external factors, I see the answer there in the way the author creates it as we know real life serial killer psychopaths. We know he hasn't had a morality meter since he was a kid. Zero empathy, and still killed animals. Since no one interfered, he continued almost explicitly. But either way, the way he was presented, when he took his revenge and when he engineered each murder, tells us that any trigger would make it so. So the author mixed everything up. Innate psychopath, as science classifies it, at the same time that it has an organization behind feeding its sadistic side. What I find strange, is how they used so many fairy tales for the tragedies of this drama. Is Oz also behind how BR decided to associate his deaths with fairytale characters? Leave to explain everything in the last episode?

Yes, we continue to watch. In my case, if it weren't for Lee Seung Gi, I would have given up already. The biggest problem with the comments I see, is that BR's fault for being a serial Killer comes from external factors. If your mother loved you, if Oz didn't exist. But while the author shows these external factors, she also introduces Jae Hoon and later, Bareum, as a murderous psychopath. It describes everything we know about predators like Ted Bundy. Those that science says haven't empathize. In fact it shows a murderer of the highest level of wickedness already in his first death. So the message is never clear. Another thing. Have you ever imagined Ji Eun's situation? And the nurse? Do you know what started the whole problem? Such a genetic test. In addition to knowing that her children are tested positive, the author pushes a dramatic murder of a mother in front of them. They were alone and disoriented. The story of the exchange was far-fetched. Nobody talks about solutions, nobody talks about therapy. There is no good message after all. And you still needed to kill Nepo, like that, after he knew he was going to have a girl? Unnecessary. We already know that OZ has no qualms. Instead of wasting time with this sad and shocking scene, focus on solving the loose scenes, just do it.

Most likely, Yo Han killed the person who tried to kill Daniel Lee. So yes, he killed someone and to confuse us more, he said this phrase: "you know your son is a murderer".

In the end, Bareum is not HH's son, I just don't like how the script pushed that possibility, even to deceive. It would not be ethical, I think taxing the son as the father. In this case, as it is a delicate topic, they should have made it very clear from the start. Confusing people about psychopathic children being murderers, just for hereditary inheritance, is very delicate. Even if everything is explained in the end, people are confused.

Honestly, I don't understand why Ji Eun wanted to kill Bareum as a child, if he was not her son. She had two flashbacks from that moment when she was trying to hang Jae Hoon. I also do not understand why Yo Han had DNA results, and went to look for Michaela at the orphanage, (so it seemed when the nun implied that she learned that Yo Han was a murderer) and why he would be in front of the house where Jae Hoon lived with. supposed mother, stepfathers and brothers. He must be the nurse's son. Somehow they were switched. Ji Eun wouldn't have been able to raise his son when he was born, and who knows, the nurse's son was born premature? Maybe the nurse knew something? And it looks like Daniel started working for the government, but at some point did he join Yo Han to end these innocent deaths? The body found in the river was never identified. Maybe an OZ member? Yo Han killed him to save Daniel Lee who was against the OZ group. And another thing, the voice of the person who answered the cell phone of the guy who was following BR, in ep.17 was very similar to Yo Han's voice. And it looked like this guy might not be from the OZ group. Two political groups must be acting against each other. And after all, that day of the transplant, they either killed him in the hospital, or saved him because there was no sign of surgery on his head. I don't doubt or "dead" reappear at the end of the day.

And did they need to put Bareum in that kind of clothes? Lol. As you said, we already know that the old BR was fake, so it was just showing your bad reactions in the photos, but you didn't need to put it on as Yo Han. Lol. It would be more realistic to see this psycho face on that guy in checkered clothes. The story lacks the morality to raise questions, when it uses the other characters already suffering enough to be dragged and punished along with the remorse of BR. In the end, the blame will be transferred to everyone, as if they were all on the same level. I am not going to lie that I felt empathy for the new Bareum at times, but in real life, psychopaths do not regret it, they do not feel remorse, and they are still exalted inside the prison. What's new in this story? Are politicians manipulative? Isn't justice impartial? Are cops dishonest and incompetent? Are people so greedy that they become psychopaths like HH, or like Daniel, that we don't know what's behind? The difference in this story was to invent a brain transplant so that the killer could empathize ... ok, but it doesn't happen in real life, so in the end, what are you going to prove? That Bareum never had the gene? That he was a genius, but because of the abuse he became that kind of monster? Waiting to see it, but I no longer have that enthusiasm for this story before.

Seeing the BTS in these photos, I don't understand what this new poster has to do with the drama phase. It doesn't look like the old BR. And as little as possible with the new BR. Where is this guy in the picture hiding? Will they still show another face of BR at 45 in the second half? Or just to show that Lee Seung Lee is a handsome man? 🙄🤨

And if Jae Hoon had been brought up in a good home, would he have become normal? So the show will show missing a few episodes, the theme: nature versus creation? If so far, despite having suffered mistreatment, did Jae Hoon also show indifference to empathy? I already showed him opening animals, I already showed him not caring about a child dying under a bridge. They are portraying Jae Hoon and Bareum, too smart not to understand how society works and the ethics about not causing harm to others ... The series is shamelessly showing that he is a psychicopta murderer of the worst that can exist, only to say that was his upbringing what made him a predator? It would be very frustrating for the author to play like that with our intelligence.

Since the policy is placed in the context of the story, since the first episode, then we will blame the policy for causing Yo Han's death (although there are no signs of surgery on Yo Han's head) to try to save the son nation. HH just accepted to take revenge on his ex wife, for lying to him? He's quite cruel for that, with Yo Han being his son, in fact, or not. Mochi's statement to HH, saying he heard that psychopaths feel attached to their children is false. His children are just toys in the hands of people like him. And, of course, to see if his theoretical transplant surgery was successful in a human. I see no paternal reason for him to have accepted to have the surgery.

Chi Kook really died. The boy was in a coma for so long to just die after waking up. How perverse this story is, in every way. The good are always sacrificed. Whether BR is a child of HH or not, if it was changed, nothing matters, because nothing good happens here. It's just chaos. It looks like a parallel universe where no one can hope, in fact it looks like a fraction of hell.

My dilemma is just that. Lee Seung Gi is doing very well in the role of a psychopath. It is a pity that the story is bad. The author lacks the morals to make a murderous character feel remorse by dragging all the other characters together. Because it is so scary to create suffering characters just to make them suffer even more, because the main character is a monster that needs to be punished ... They are not on the same level of cruelty and sin. Another question: BR before surgery is who deserved to be penalized and or BR that was good, because he received the part of the brain from another person? How crazy this is. I wanted to see that debauched and sadistic BR suffer, and not this new BR. In the end will he become the same monster from the beginning? Then the story is lost again.

Yes, I just don't agree with fans angry at the awards, as if they were to blame. The script is different, it's about psychopath. But I already got tired of seeing. Too many badly resolved things, to put the blame on the government in the end. kkkkkk What bothers me are fans who do not understand that the period when Mouse aired and the delay in showing the nuances of Bareum, were the factors for him not to enter the category. They are saying that the actor who is going to receive it will feel embarrassed for not deserving it. This is very mean by some fans. It is not the fault of the awards nor of TVN. Le Seung Gi is doing very well on paper, but we have to have respect for the work of others.

I must agree. And what makes me angry is that because of this unnecessary boldness or fear of the audience, they never showed the extended scenes as shown in the special episode. So crazed LSG fans attack the awards for not nominating him. And they say that whoever receives the award for best actor, may feel ashamed for not deserving it. They never dare to criticize the script that was the determining factor for LSG to be out of the awards.

You will see she is a psychopath too. Lol, because the story that wanting to make a psychopath empathize using the death of another (Yo Han), and using the life and destiny of other main characters just so that this remorse is greater is kind of sadistic.

What kind of message does the author want to convey with this type of drama? Getting a psychopath to repent of his sins is impossible. So, would the law be tougher on these types of criminals? But then it shows one or two prisoners who are there without really being the culprits. Blame politics? It is always easy to blame politicians and the rich. Blame the incompetent police? The blame, in fact, will fall on whoever helped Bareum to survive, instead of Yo Han. In the end, the other protagonists will always suffer more. It is as if their sin and faults make up for such a harsh penalty, as Bareum deserves. And as they said, with a transplant, it is as if Yo Han continues to pay. It is like a good "soul" in the motor machine called "body", of a murderer. Let's see what the other 5 episodes are going to do. I feel sorry for the production always running out of time. I wonder why these series are not pre-produced to be released later?

The only point I disagree about what you said, is about the Son of Hong Joo being the grandson of HH so he will necessarily be the same. This is prejudice against people who have psychopathic fathers or mothers. I hope that the drama does not show this, although they will show that BR is probably the son of HH.

To begin with, Jae Hoon, as a psychopath, would not ask God not to make him a monster. He would be a murderer with no remorse. I hate how they use God in the middle of it.

The guy was the boxer. He probably waited when Jae Hoon was 10 or 12, because it took him a while to find them later. And perhaps it caused the death of Jae Hoon's adoptive family. So the first killer of the 7 sins was killed by revenge.

Tank You! They will not answer anything in this special episode and most people think that Bareum is the killer, and as I said, it will be a surprise if he is not. They postponed an episode perhaps for recording reasons, so as not to run things over.

Flashbacks? If they really wanted to show a twist Bareum could be in those clothes but not with the hair he had before.

Special episode because people are confused? I know that there are those who believe that Yo Han was SK, but it is obvious that it is Bareum. My only question is whether he had help. Because in the episode of the priest's death he suddenly became The Flash to be in so many places and do so many things at the same time. Honestly it will only be a turnaround for me, or a surprise if Bareum is not the killer. If the author makes him the good son that HH did not expect. A genius who had a different life than he really showed, but still fighting his evil genes. The rest will be the monster having remorse after a brain transplant because the part he received was from a person who had empathy.