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Some bits to share lol

Observations/Easter Eggs

Memes and funny stuff

Interviews

Novel vs drama comparisons + novel spoilers

Drama spoiler

My take on what @abs-oluteM shared:

An edited clip of our cool badass prince:

More on final filming sched article:

Observations:

New NG clip trans:

Articles:

New updates for today lmao

Novel spoiler:

Mimi's take on episodes 11 to 12: https://thetalkingcupboard.com/2021/11/17/the-red-sleeve-notes-and-historical-stuff/

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EP 11 – 12

• Never thought that I would be crying over Yeongjo-Sado again, but here I am…one can only imagine what San feels when he is continuously being doubted by his grandfather, yet he is still keeping himself under control. Yeongjo’s mind is probably befuddled with regret, so much that he mistakes San as the son he got rid of himself. The death of Sado is forever a mark which cannot be erased in both Yeongjo and San’s life, but in the end, Yeongjo’s final words remain, “I did so many wrongs, but I did my best.” Not everything he did was right, but maybe, it was the best decision he could come up as the king.
• The way Deok-ro using the analogy of Taejong-Taejo for San-Yeongjo reminded me of the time when Yeongjo himself viewed as Taejong who hid all Sejong’s books like how he did to San. Taejong, the king who killed his own half-brother and caused his father Taejo to give up the throne. He was also the king who deposed his own son from the Crown Prince’s position and chose his third son as the next king, killing his in-laws in the process in order to prepare a smooth ground for the reign of Sejong. Almost 400 years difference, yet some things hardly change.
• Although we seldom see Sado himself in this drama, his presence is as strong as ever, hovering in the background when it comes to the relationship between San and Yeongjo. The usage of geumdeungjisa here is not as a confession, but as a guarantee letter in securing San’s safety and future. Oh, one can only imagine how suffocating it is to have such an unfortunate family history….
• Who wouldn’t miss a chance to show her presence and influence? Certainly not the Queen, who has been living without any real power due to lack of child or political influence surrounding her. Deok-im sure knows how to ruffle her feathers, enticing the Queen into taking the position of being San’s saviour. It is certainly worth anticipating to see what kind of Dowager she will become after San becomes the king.
• Court Lady Jo’s end leaves me wondering how will everything be different should Yeongjo did choose her instead. Perhaps, she might not be as bitter as she is in the present and the secret group might not be as active as it is. But then, there will always be someone who is there to protect their interest, despite not being directly associated with the king like she was. How will her successor fare? Wol-hye, my eyes are on you…
• Despite the focus on the throne this week, we get to see Deok-im pouring her heart out and talking about her real feelings. She puts herself as the top priority, but at heart, there is also her sincere feeling of carrying out her duties as a court maid, including supporting her master in whatever way she can. San’s change in status – from being in the most unstable position as the heir to the king’s throne – will also stir a change in Deok-im’s life goal; now that San is a king who has the power in his hands, how will Deok-im’s presence be of any help to him? Will she get to live in peace now that San has everything? And the most important question: will her own heart be at ease? Loving a king is indeed a difficult path to walk on; there is no way he will belong solely to her, for he is a king and father of the whole nation first before her partner in life.
• All hail to the new king, who has endured everything under the sun to become the sun himself.

@Mizv as of this time no official novel translation yet :(

Some things you may want to catch up on

Interviews:

Novel spoilers:

Comments:

Script change spoiler

Okay @czakhareinaI figured out the other prod company. If you look at the ending credits, you can see another logo beside NPIO one... so that's the one included in the article I shared before.

Wonderful thread:

Comments spree:

Novel spoiler in relation to the proposal in episode 12

Honestly episode 12 is good. I'm so happy we can finally move forward to another uncertain chapter ahead. Seriously I got stressed though lol

@czakhareina I will look into that company further later on, so I actually have that article bookmarked.

Trivia time:

Tbh probably the only thing episode 11 stresses me out is how King Yeongjo can no longer balance himself as a family member, and the effects of his regret in killing Crown Prince Sado is actually coming out now. There's one part near the end of episode 11 which made me think that he's spitting nonsense (about his father's expectations)...

Btw @abs-oluteM I may need to visit the drama's bulletin board again at MBC's website because so many viewers posted again omg

And actually the news on the 2 episode airing on the 25th didn't blow up at theqoo... I wonder how many pages will I end up seeing again

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Sir, not that caption 

Some details found from the drama

I need to do some research soon

Sharing some stuff you can catch up with :)

An edited SanDeok clip with a BGM in it

More novel spoilers

Another interview translation with the author of the novel

Article on the stocks rise

In case you are curious of Seong Uibin's tomb location

Announcement!

Have your mourning pack prepared for the holidays folks!

More novel spoilers:

the clowning we (me, @czakhareina @abs-oluteM) made about what truly shakes Deok Im is just so accurate that even Lee Se Young confirmed it herself LOL

Lee Se Young dropped a historical spoiler so please read at your own discretion

More on Kang Mi Kang (the novel's author) interview

Junho's behind the scene vlog on his action scene is trending on YouTube!

One of the journalists from Forbes recommended The Red Sleeve as part of "The 20 Best Korean Dramas of 2021".

Link: https://www.forbes.com/sites/joanmacdonald/2021/12/15/the-21-best-korean-dramas-of-2021/?sh=93d9a0a65914

Excerpt:

Also additional info on their last filming day:

More novel spoiler about SanDeok's first night together

More bread crumbs from episode 10

Subbed making clip of episodes 9 and 10

The deleted cut though LOL

Comments festival:

My video edit on warrior San

Namgoong Min sent a food truck for Junho at TRS set!

Some new stuff about TRS today

Subbed version of episode 9 deleted scene:

An edited clip of our amazing warrior San

Compliments for Junho and TRS achievements in OTT

More novel spoilers:

I went over to TRS's bulletin board in MBC's website (one has to register before posting) and there were a lot of posts made after episode 10 was aired. I think I browsed almost 6 pages as of this time to check each subject title. There was one which had constructive criticism.

The audience was used to the jampacked pacing of the episodes so what was presented for episode 10 is a little slower than the others. I think one of the reasons why as it goes on, it was not received well (except for episode 9) because it ends up being a "filler episode". As far as I can remember, there was no filler episode so far from TRS. So this could be a little unusual for the audience to see it due to the pattern presented in first half.

I noticed that one of the strengths of a good drama despite I being a picky viewer is that the writer has laid out how it should be presented. Viewers could see it in about 4 to 6 episodes. So one of the bulletin board posts said that maybe the director had trouble in editing episode 10 that it looks incomplete. 

I think if they ended up scrapping out some parts, then I think we shall expect more deleted scenes coming soon? As to which ones are deleted, well I wish them good luck cause if viewers weren't happy with the selection. Then boom.

Junho's IG post today

Achievements made by The Red Sleeve

Funny comment omg

New historical trivia:

News article

Lmao I couldn't agree more with this tweet

Deok Im is definitely the kingmaker in Joseon era, and it's definitely the reason why she had higher hopes for San than for herself.

Historical trivia:

Cat Deok Im lmao

TRS episode 7 with stage direction notes - subbed

Some more blabbering from my part

I didn't notice Viu titled episode 9 as The Red Sleeve 

I did not expect for episode 10 to break my poor melodramatic heart. Honestly despite the frustrating pacing, they actually delivered the melodrama I wanted to see - thanks to Junho for the first 10 minutes more or less and Seyoung on the latter part of the drama.

I just realized I cannot watch the clip of Deok Im daydreaming about San anymore without crying. It's pure pain in so many levels because

1. Even when she rejected San's mandarin orange confession, her subconscious still came up with that scenario. Her heart remembered what San loves doing the most.

2. It also shows that everything they shared in the last few weeks or days, all of it are special to Deok Im.

Actually episodes 9 and 10 dedicate more time for us to explore on Deok Im's feelings. As predicted, she has feelings for San but she is more rational as she knows her priorities. And when she finally managed to tell him what is from her heart - in this case her priority, San was able to understand because this time Deok Im is more honest about it.

Deok Im wanted to do some more things with him as his servant, but she can't thanks to the aftermath due to bad cards laid out. Her yearning was there which eventually led San found out about it and reciprocated in the manner she would welcome for now.

And I think in relation to second formal rejection, what Deok Im laid out in both episodes will be the cause of frustration for San to punish her subordinates later on.

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Memes

Novel spoiler:

Comments

Historical trivia:

Articles

Watched bits of episode 10 and the flow is a little frustrating.

Judging from the preview of episode 11, someone shared a reading reference

My take after reading it:

Episode 11 preview:

The translation of what PD Jung said as shared by @czakhareina (BE CAREFUL, DON'T OPEN IF YOU ARE NOT READY FOR IT)

Some more beautiful GIFs I found

2PM Jang Wooyoung sent a support truck to Junho for The Red Sleeve!

And on top of that support truck at the set, they were filming...

sending this GIF for @abs-oluteM! Deok Im's face was slightly twitched from the teardrop though...

How to say I Love You:

News articles:

Some observations about the episode:

Let's clown some more here LOL

Episode 9 was wonderful! There's character development for both along the way. And I think at some point, Deok Im will eventually have feelings for San. It's just that it won't be in the same manner San wants to get from her.

Deok Im's love language is definitely in the form of protecting someone. In this case, it's San

What I like about this drama so far is that the romance between two people is expressed in a subtle manner even though their age is quite young

Checked the webtoon @czakhareina and it's not yet translated. Some parts have to be paid for.

Some more spoilers from the novel LOL. Btw Ridibooks has the digital version of it in case you're interested. I think it's also where I read the reviews before the drama aired.

Webtoon version of the novel: https://webtoon.kakao.com/content/옷소매-붉은-끝동/2565

Enjoy reading!

Thank you @abs-oluteM and @czakhareina!

Can't wait for the actual climax as lots of stuff will happen according to history, and I wonder what will happen to the flower symbolism and metaphor for the second half too

Message from the Lee besties