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@abs-oluteM Good on you. I was only listening out for KSH’s voice. ignored rest of it.

Ah. this was presented to the English audience in the “Kim So Heon reacts to” video

Fan edits are the best. I think this story needs to go into the realm of fandom for it to be salvaged cos the professionals made a mess of it. Man, I’m so very annoyed right now! Ranted throughout my watch on discord. I’m not over my upsettedness now but it’s time to wind down. Argh!!!! @bairama @Lynne @Chocolate @mademoiselle

@abs-oluteM The netflix korea clip is a little different from the english one?

I actually don't like how cocky Dosan has become in the 3 years. And I'm not so sure about Dalmi's expression either. She seems excited but hesitant as well. What if it takes another plan b by Jipyeong to save them?

I'm just looking at the part where KSH answers the question, "What would you do if you were in the same situation as Jipyeong?" And he answers, "I think I'd just be honest. If Jipyeong were honest with Dalmi, would he be by her side instead of Dosan? I don't think so. Dosan and Dalmi are meant to be together." I don't think this reflects what the end game will be though. They can't give spoilers, right? #hopeful

Wah... @Chocolate... not sure how to react to the preview yo... surprised TvN released such a long clip. I'm really not sure how this "sail off without a map" was presented in the letters when they were younger. Was it the last thing Dalmi wrote to "Dosan" but never got a reply for? I don't think even as a youth Jipyeong would have said, "throw caution to the wind and just wing it". He's always had to be practical from young because he did not have the luxury of unlimited resources. You see it in all his actions too, so even while as an investor there are risks he must take, they're all calculated risks. And I think that's what he dislikes about Dosan too - there is a reckless lack of planning in Dosan, which makes him therefore a poor CEO. I'm not sure where Dalmi is in this spectrum. I reckon that's why she needs that Sherpa and Jipyeong is it. He can rein them in. Dosan is a researcher at heart, that's why he will experiment and is willing to make mistakes in order to find the right answers. But that's something he could do at 2STO because that's a big company likely with a huge research budget. Startups generally don't have that luxury unless they get a huge investor to back them up. And even then, Yoon Daepyo also cautioned Yongsan about that - they could crash and burn. Jipyeong won't let that happen to Dalmi. Now it's just what Dalmi realises is the "right" response to this impulsive statement from Dosan. There is a flashback, but does this flashback present as a comparison from then to now? Will we finally see growth? They were reckless back then too and Dosan (and SST) got sued by stepdad. They're up against stepdad again now. @abs-oluteM

@abs-oluteM I think it's at 3:58... when she was doing the aegyo action.

@mademoiselle Great minds think alike! We posted at the same time! Hahahaha...

I was watching a 2D1N clip on youtube recently, the one where they played a charades version of broken telephone with their managers. Anyone seen that yet? The way KSH looked at his manager... Can melt anyone's heart... Is there something going on there?

The weekend of reckoning is here, friends!

@abs-oluteM In any case, back on the laptop now so am able to share this other twitter thread by Seonhohappy. She makes a compelling case for why Jipyeong will be the end game - the same reasons why we all thought so from episodes 1 to 12. There is a certain consistency to the way she presents her stories, and we want to trust in the logic of her universe. Right? I reckon the disappointments came with episodes 13 and 14 however, which were uncharacteristically poorly executed. They've definitely thrown me off. I don't remember PHR's pacing ever being inconsistent. Then again, in her other stories, the love line has never been in question, and that was always considered one of her "less interesting" plot lines in her stories insofar as the characters were concerned. Perhaps she is attempting to switch it up a bit this time and it's garnered a lot more attention than the business storyline. Things happen that we do not expect. Maybe that's the whole plot twist we've been looking for.

Didn't work on the iPad though...

@abs-oluteM @Lynne Are we not showing enough faith in PHR's writing?

@Chocolate Thanks!

@mademoiselle Jipyeong's interactions with Halmeoni are the best! I love how she cleans his mouth with her hands, like the way we do for little children, how she "scolds" him, how she totally babies him! Aigoo... and he loves it! Poor Jipyeong who grew up without the love of family totally lights up when he's with Halmeoni. Which again is why, as @abs-oluteMpointed out, is very painful if Dosan ends up with Dalmi. How will Jipyeong be able to step into the house again? PHR set him up to be such a strong character, why snuff it out with such meaningless tropes? I remain disappointed, but like the rest of you still sticking around, I'm hanging on to that 1% hope that Dalmi sees the light! I'm trying to share a tweet here... how do I do that? #fail <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">𝙏𝙝𝙚 1% 𝘾𝙝𝙖𝙣𝙘𝙚 🤡<br>I&#39;ve made my commitment to clown until the end, so let me do my best to collate my thoughts here, as well as interesting tweets from others too. I&#39;m aware that the odds are low, but I&#39;ll hang on to the 1% chance anyway. 🌱<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Startup?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Startup</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Hanjipyeong?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Hanjipyeong</a> <a href="https://t.co/bVh3aX94PZ">pic.twitter.com/bVh3aX94PZ</a></p>&mdash; seonhohappy ◡̈ 김선호 1% CHANCE 🔂🍜💌🌿 (@seonhohappy) <a href="https://twitter.com/seonhohappy/status/1333252835828383744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Laughing at this article (if you can call it that) from allkpop https://www.allkpop.com/article/2020/11/shouldnt-the-male-lead-switch-start-ups-han-ji-pyeong-has-a-huge-lead-over-nam-do-san-in-a-popularity-poll

The week started out quite busy for me, and still remains so, but Imma gonna squeeze in some time to... vent!!! (just like my cat when she sulks) I qualify again - I have no issue with Dalmi choosing Dosan, even if he might not be the best fit for her, because well, people make choices and live with them. And if Dalmi and Dosan were real people. What I have an issue with is how she is choosing him when it seems like her character is going against its own logic. There is something in the trajectory this story is being thrown into that looks like it has been derailed from its original set up. As @abs-oluteM and @Chocolate have pointed out repeatedly - and I echo their sentiments - the foundations of the story, the backdrop, character buildup, etc. all point to Jipyeong. Bad reasons and apparent deceptions aside, they all point towards Jipyeong as being central to this story. In many ways, I even see him as the lead. It almost feels as if the story is about him than about Start Ups. That particular storyline was totally thrown into the wind from the get go. So @HerManyShows, ya, you're right. We can forget about the developments of everyone else. Therein lies my disappointment with PHR which I am sure @Lynneshares - what one earth happened to her writing here? She's always had a talent for weaving in complexities shared between multiple characters because that's what it is in real life. People have complex connections with multiple persons, each having overlapping relationships. Yet she never "lost the plot" in the process. This time round, the plot has gone haywire and the story no longer holds logic within its own world. What went wrong? The entire time jump. It served no purpose. The Samsan Tech boys did not grow. They did not mature. In fact, they got worse because they came back (so easily) rich, conceited and just as clueless as before about how to really run a business. Dosan returned bitter. The 3 years taught him nothing except to pine for Dalmi while feeding his anger. And he came back angry with Jipyeong. He's looking for someone to blame and it's *again* Jipyeong, his literal and figurative punching bag. Why even? Dalmi did not grow either. She is still impulsive, not logical and collected like Injae, and cannot tell the difference between personal and professional. Jipyeong did nothing for 3 years except eat all the food at Halmeoni's for Chuseok. Whut? Did he not make dinners regular at her house? He's practically the grandson Halmeoni didn't have, and for all that, he did not get to know Dalmi better? Dalmi is still uncomfortable with him? Why? He was their mentor, excuse me. She sent him 400 text messages. He wrote letters to her - did she burn them all? She didn't clarify with him? She didn't clarify with Halmeoni? 3 years, seriously? Ironically, the one person with the least screen time was the only one who grew. Injae became softer after working with her sister. She became more independent and ready to cut ties with her stepfather and brother. And more ready to (re)connect with family. But everyone else? Who knows and by now, who cares? I'm still watching only cos I want to see how predictable this is going to be. We've already seen the very easy revival of Samsan Tech through the partnership of the boys and Dalmi's new startup (which I have to say, should not have Dalmi as CEO - Injae was right. She should be fired.) Now let's see how else the engineering twins will betray them. I reckon the ransomware could just be generated by them.

Ooh! I got a tiger! I got a tiger! I love tigers! Happy 100 days! (late as I might be... )

The more honourable Jipyeong is, the more annoyed I am at how this is being written. Come on... Dosan is the clear jerk here leh... argh!!

So annoyed with episode 13. Hubby fell asleep cos it was that boring. This morning he asked me, "So, what happened?" I told him "nothing". The time jump was for naught. Hubby felt that the start with the SST boys on the yacht was just too pretentious and painful to watch, so he decided to sleep instead. Yah boy. Have to agree. What exactly was the time jump for? What did it serve? Dosan, Chulsan and Yongsan can now afford vacations on a yacht in the Atlantic Ocean? SST can now afford an apartment by the Han River? All supposed developments between Injae, mum and stepdad and stepbrother summed up in a 5s news clip? Dalmi is still in Sandbox? Wae?? The startup started another startup and needs to stay in a startup incubator?? Jipyeong did nothing for 3 years? Saha is still as curt as ever? Injae still not spending time with mum and Halmeoni? No one seems to have grown in 3 years! Except Jipyeong who has grown more handsome, not that Dalmi noticed. Even if the romance is trying to get milked to the end, there's really nothing left of it to tell. As @abs-oluteMputs it, the romance story line has gotten tiresome already. Everything is painfully predictable now, there's no tension anymore. I don't see how anymore twists can come. The boys very easily decided not to return to LA, they will quite certainly replace the engineer twins in Injae's company. Saha will join them as lawyer-cum-designer, Yay... Samsan Tech is reunited. No? Plot twist? The engineer twins have been the ransomware hackers all along. *roll eyes please* I'm also gonna keep watching for KSH, but as far as HJP is concerned - as a character you've failed, but it's not your fault. You've been written like that. Getting Extraordinary You vibes here... Can HJP outgrow the limits of the character he's been written to be? Meh. @Lynne @40somethingahjumma @bairama @Chocolate

This would be pure evil. Hahhaha... Anyway... I’m up to episode 5 of 2D1N and he’s so good - that bit where he’s supposed to act like he’s been dumped. Wah. He’s really good.

Why are they still in the Sandbox after 3 years? Do they not have to move out after the residency is over? @abs-oluteM While it’s true viewers like to talk about the romance, it did not dominate the storyline for Hospital Playlist, nor did it dominate for PHR’s other dramas. It is however more central in this show than the story about startups. It’s centrestage actually, considering that’s the foundation of the entire web of relationships. @ryanallright as regards Kang Hanna and her lack of screen time, I realise PHR writes like this. If you look at all her “other” female characters in the “mandatory” cultural line of up of 2+2 for “leads”, the second female lead is always a flower vase. It was the same in Pinocchio and While You Were Sleeping. Do you even remember that there’s a second female lead at all in these shows? Injae this time has much more of a story presence (though not corresponding screen presence) in Start-up than any of the other female “second leads”. Ever. Don’t expect much. PHR has already given her more time than others before.