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Exactly. It happen w yuanniang maid concubine tong. She slept w houye when Yuanniang was pregnant n git raised to a concubine, explained in feng ching saga. I wonder if later the dearh 9f tong will be related to qin or not hmmmm... Remember madame luo asked shiyi to find someone close to her to see if houye is interested in because houye was not physically close w shiyi then. A bit sick but like what NiteWalker says it is to keep man away from outsiders. Like let hin play at home instead of outside. Ur maid u can control, ladies outside u cant.

This is the very few drama angsty scenes i actually rewatch because it makes sense. Normally if it is too illogical i just skip. I skip ruyi pavillion angsty father burning n funeral scenes cause that was so hmmm...mehh... Here they talked about it and that the paper is for her use. No matter how reluctant he is to let her go if she need to use it, her life n death will be his top priority. I mean houye is a mature seasoned man here in the drama character, it is completely understandable he needs to do what he needs to do. No need to argue. It wasnt about him angry w her for the stab. But with his sentence of finding someone u love n marry him, i think he actually want her to tell him about the ou guy haha... But he ended getting explanation of her suspecting him instead. N ou had helped her to investigate. What?!!! An ou helped u n u believed him n suspected me.. Poof.. Ouch second stab on the heart. But that hurt look when he realised she suspected him was amazing. I teared up as well. Wallace makes me cry haha... But tsy heartfelt cry of they said he died gave me a second wave of tear. All the subsequent, ep 31 to 34 really revolved around that issues of why din u trust me. It was not about ou or stab. He want to know if shiyi love him as a person or not. Because she din use the paper when really need to. He sensed she has feelings towards him but not sure if it is love, gratitude or gulit. So in his own ways he tried to make sense why shiyi is guarded, careful with him. The root of his recent coldness is from there. It doesnt help at all when she always thank him profusely whenever he is good to her n look so guilty n sad whenever she remember the stabbing. To him i m ur husband. Do u really need to thank me like that. N when he found out she attempt to run away from marrying him, his reaction was mature..love it. Thats in the past. She is my wife now. But i think the positive bit is now houye is very certsin that yuanniang scheme was yuanniang alone. Shiyi was innocent n never schemed to marry him. Now his issues is u never see me as someone u can depend on. So, That is why u withhold everything from me. Heart n body. He had his answers even though it was not an accurate conclusion . To shiyi that is the beginning, now everything has changed. But Houye wants all or nothing because he knows very well she is the love of his life. That is why when she asked him to stay n she doesn't want to lost him, he knows she has open up completely to him and it is love. The consummation scenes were very well executed because it gave that feel of a long awaited, yearn for long consummated. Pure love with nothing like motives, power, responsibility mix in..

Ladies look like our positivity and appreciation of this drama is being appreciated. Saw a posting in weibo the person took a few of janghaven postings plus few other forum n translated. To show how many international audiences of this drama appreciate the show n wallace n tsy acting. Haha... Yeah..like thumpers mommy says when u have nothing nice to say don say anything at all. I turn a c drama fan mainly due to lockdown last year. There were few many drama I like, so I try my best to support m comment.. Those that i don like because leads are too childish or storyline is just meh... I did not comment at all. Good or bad, whatever it is, actors worked hard n pd team, directors tried their best n worked hard within certain limitations they have, just try to appreciate. If really cannot appreciate no need to be harsh as well.

Ep 38 official trailer E

@gracebkk yes I totally agree w u. I love this one so much thst those details i noticed did not affect my liking at all..just let it pass because it dies nit affect the character logic, growth n story logic logic at all. Like I say in mdl. This is a fictional story. Just leave some room for imagination. It suppose to take our minds off real world. If we mind so much on historical factts, details of the settings etc, better quit dramas. They are almost all not logical in some ways. That is why it is drama. Unless it is a biography story or documentary . That u need to be accurate. Hshs bees n flowers hahs... Yes shoukd be right about consummate representation.. Lovr their morning after scene. Oh boy her glow n his tenderness just unbelievable. Oh another morning after i love is on sleepless princess between xue yao m chu yue. So sweet. He wss so tender n eyes full of love while she shyly smuggle against him. They were next to a window. Both will be my most memorable morning after scene. Hehr

Don worry. No such scene cause that clips is made up of scenes from His last drama general and i. By the way i un follow avenuex. I thought she was being unnecessary picky. She picks on setting logic.. Not story logic. If one comment on story logic ya I think it is fine.. But setting logic is too much.. Eg 'ming dynasty should hv this this this that that that but this show dont do. Thst era girls don go out n therefore shiyi should not be drinking tea unchaperoned w lin in enclosed space.' Ello our shiyi is quite spunky in character all through. N she trade embroidery for years in yuhang. 'Houye is illogical cold to his other wives and he should be sleeping with all his wives for man of that era.'.Sounds like a man of that era cannot be fed up with all his wives n decide to celibate for long while. . Oh boy I thought that was too much. Why must he sleep with them when u married out of duties. I m sure neither Man today nor man of bygone era will like to be treated ike an object of power struggles or a trophy right.. Every man want a woman after his own heart to love n understand him for who he truly id. She sounded illogical to me. Haha... This is like u already have a 80% A n yet she pick on why not 100%..i find her review getting more n more in those direction. Not on story, acting, sets etc. If u are so logical, don watch dramas ya. @Funnypeopleswimneed to add: Her in laws pressure her to ask her sister to get houye to help to bring duke wei to justice. They offer if houye help, then they will put the adopted son under her nane

Ep 37 trailer for everyone. Is ok.. It is a very complicated scheme so not easy to understand. Lets talk about the backgrounf of this plot: 1. Remember ou lx was the one who almost get wangyu slaughtered by duke wei because wangyu try to kidnap the lady dancer ep 25. Ou lx introduced the lady to wangyu who knows lecherous wangyu can be. That lady is duke wei best friend daughter who was framed becsuse like lingyi he supported the lifting of the sea ban. His daughter was punished to a class of slaves n sold to this brothel like place. Duke wei had been protecting her all these time. She was Duke wei god daughter now.. Ep 25 wangyu was almost sliced up ny duke wei. Luckily lingyi find out stopped it. The intricacy here is because wangyu n houye are in laws, if wangyu is killed by duke wei, there will sure be prob between duke wei n houye no matter what our houye think of wangyu as a person. Houye need duke wei support in the ban lift cause. That was the first sttempt to segregated duke wei w houye. Now second attempt.. the snake ou lx wife set up a trap. She send her family confidant to murder wangyu, the biscuit hubby of ErNiang. All evidence point to duke wei because of part 1 of the plot mention above n because his door boy hit wangyu when he came to duke wei place to make a ruckus . Then snake lady gave idea to wang family saying the investigation bureau is scared n will not be serious about the case because of Duke Wei's power. All mum dad n sister who married the jiang family are so upset n the snake wife start giving them idea that if marquis yong ping would stand up for them to bring this to the emperor, then bureau will be more careful n serious. This is to dealt a direct blow to duke wei n houye relationship. If lingyi help he will be accusing duke wei of murder w no evidence. If he doesn't help, ppl are gossiping that he is chummy with duke wei and xu want to get close to powerful duke wei for political reason n duke wei being a upright man will distance himself from houye to show everyone he is not houye buddy. Either way, houye is caught in between. Besides if he doesn't help the wangs, the jiangs n Luos (because ErNiang is a luo n chunge half luo is betrothed to a jiang) will be against him. But if he helped, ou lx will accused him of abusing his power for personal reason. But why need houye help. Because ErNiang n shiyi are sisters. Wangyu is houye brother in law. So that snake activate 2nd bit of the plot as follow. 2. ErNiang was pregnant n lost her baby. The in laws were very grief stricken n decided to adopt a boy from wang clan. If the boy is put under wangyu name then this boy who will inherit the duke title will be ErNiang son so her future hua secure. If they put under wamgyu father, then ErNiang will be left w nothing. Her in laws pressure her to ask her sister to get houye to help to bring duke wei to justice. They offer if houye help, then they will put the son under her name. Playing on her fear, ou lx wife suggested ErNiang to ask her sister for help..her words.... oh surely ur sister will help u. She has such a influential n powerful hubby. She aggravated ErNiang further by saying that ur sister is so close n loved by her hubby i m sure if shiyi will help talk to houye he will help. ErNiang fall for it hook line sinker. Cause she need to hv that son n of course she hate shiyi to hv such a powerful yet good hubby. During the funeral ErNiang asked nicely first for shiyi to help. Shiyi response is houye cannot disturb the bureau investigation n there is no evidence that Duke Wei is the murderer, so i cannot influenced houye. She is definitely thinking for houye. This is before the couple actually realise the plot against them. At first when knowing wangyu death n ErNiang miscarriage houye has been very concerned that shiyi will be worried about her sister. He already tries to find out forvher wobher asking n notifies the bureau to update him if there is anything. So the right thing to do is to neutrally wait for the investigation results. Shiyi told ErNiang how houye has been kind enough to keep an look out for the case. Upon hearing shiyi unwillingness to go further, she kicked up a ruckus in front of xu manor on the day of shiyi flower party. N threatened to come again n again till houye agree to help. Causing a huge embarrassment to shiyi. On shiyi level, she was told off by madame xu n also madame luo because jiang sister want to destroy chunge marriage alliance. She was pressured to settle her sister by madame xu n pressured to settle houye by madame luo. Poor gal.. Of course our houye at this point start to see the plot as mentioned in my point 1. They talked. N sort through their train of thoughts together. Houye suggest shiyi to stay away from ErNiang by going to their holiday house.. Shiyi refused as she bravely says let me deal w my sister. She told houye if houye openly deal w her sister either way it will look bad on houye. Either he will be seen as cruel n heartless to his wife poor sister or if he give in to her wild demand, ou will bite him for abusing his power.. But if shiyi deal w ErNiang, then its the sisters n a women thingy. She will just be called a heartless sister who married well n now refused to help her relatives. For her, her reputation doesnt matter compared to houye. Houye is of course reluctant becsuse he is very protective of shiyi. The guy just want to make sure his wife doesn't suffer one bit in any way. But shiyi told him not to worry. The smart alec shiyi had her smart way too.. She manage to stall ErNiang n diffused ErNiang anger n stopped her from creating more ruckus n thus giving houye time to secretly investigate the case as he cannot openly do it.

@gracebkkyeah... U r right.. It was like huh... Some may not like because it is very slow burn, or the idea of one man many wives, ml is actually lot older thsn fl in the drama or the idea of marrying ur brither in law.. I thought thst is fine to dislike, then don watch but some ppl seems to misunderstand the show or simply don understand the story. N start to go all against and all trying to tear up the drama. I mean i watch so many stories i don like i dont bother to comment then haha.... @AwkwarDerpYa i cant use SnT which is initial so i change my T to my hubby initial G haha... It is good we can share our thoughts positively here. Not everyone chase drama like us haha.... @Funnypeopleswimthanks i just comment based on the scenes i watch. So it is more factual less personal opinion. I just thought the script even though has some holes n some factual mistakes n inconsistencies like timeline for examples: 1. There never properly show seasons like winter. Cause it is capital of ming is Beijing which has snowing winter 2. After qiC first kiss which is in july, then they separated for more than a month n get back and suddenly walk in garden, there was so many flowers blooming like spring wheras season should be going to autumn, if it is next spring danyang should not be still pregnant), 3. danyang pregnancy timeline feels weird too. Cause shiyi encounter w danyang on the second day of marriage she is newly pregnant n at 35 episodes she gave birth meaning everything between houye n shiyi happen in less than 9 months. Scriptwriter is a little lazy in that sense ,however, it does tries to explain many things like why certain ppl are the way they are. Why their reaction was as such. Of course the actors were so good in portraying the characters esp wallace n tsy. So the drama does not deserve to be tear up. I love all the arches. N that round carved window where they always sat. So pretty n poetic. Actually it is very cinematic the whole drama.. This director is very good with capturing the framing. Love banyuepan exterior too.

@oppasaranghaeyo A bit of spoiler for ppl who hasnt watch ep 36.

Ya @OsmanthusTeai agree w u. ErNiang will not survive in xu family. She is very much like yuanniang. N she will behave in a typical way like try to gain houye favour, bear him children etc. She will be just like one of his concubines. Cant win his heart and even his attention. She will also create too much havoc n he will stsy away. If wangyu arrangement is a go ahead, i think shiyi will def run away. N meet ou again n married him haha.... Like what she says you cant control certain sitiation but u can do ur best to win rhe battle. If houye married ErNiang i personally think heavens must hv so much against him to make him suffer like that haha... Poor man. I m sure after his ep 31 to 34 encounter of ErNiang he must be thanking his heaven luck that yuanniang did not schemed ErNiang to him. Must be thanking his lucky star wholeheartedly now that he has the love of his life.

I saw a discussion in dramalist about what u think will happen if shiyi married wangyu n ErNiang end up marry houye. She keep on yelping that she will be better off at xu family. What do u guys think?

@gracebkkxianlingke is selected to join the preliminary selection of embroidering for the emperor birthday. Shiyi suggesred they do the word fu with 100 of different fu on it. In ep 36 ending, she was shooting arrow w houye n she quietly whispered to him that she has some thoughts on the embroidery. I think she want to set the trap n get the spy to move. Cause ou yx warn her the brither ou lx is the organiser of the birthday event. So ep 37 someone prob hide chunge or lead him to play somewhere. Causing shiyi to run out of her room n everyone panicking to look for chunge. When they come back, the cloth was burn n at the dot ou lx came w the imperial edict to bring the embroidery to court. But from 38 it wasnt successful. 38 shows ou lx asking the spy to cause a rift between shiyi n houye which i gleeful think that wasn't possible anymore. The two have a very deepset trust in each other. After the mum murder suspicion, shiyi is already in love n trusting houye fully. It is not going to work.

@AwkwarDerpsaw ur comment on dramalist. Love it. I make mine too. Hehe... But under sng cause my user name SnT is taken d.

She did not used even in the face of the poison wine that the mil is about to make her drink. Her maid wanted to take it out. She says if he comes back, i will let him punish me however he want but if he died, i will died along. She adked dong chin to burn it. But uo to ep 36 now, whether that divorce paper is still hidden away or not by the maid is unknown.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CMcGt-mgzad/?igshid=w18eaagf6uul This is trailer 37 38 combined.

@N3buLa84hi hi... Come come join us to woo and waaa over our leads n this drama. We r all loving it.

I think from the conversation when he was married to yuanniang he was away a lot too cause he has many military duties esp down south in the minzhe - guandong region nearer to the sea where the pirates are rampant. Yuanniang n family stayed in the capital. It is now that he is based in the capital city. So he can come home daily. This bit was mentioned in ep 36 when they were chatting about their children. But during yuanniang time and her death and one year after before he married 11, he is in ban yue pan n stayed away from his wives. His cave. He always withdraw into this chamber hahaha Ya after consummate her hair was side parted d. I love her in pale n different shade of green. N he wear that pink n brown robe a lot. Maybe it the episodes line up . Hopefully they change it back to blue n green.

That is ep 38 trailer. He went to rescue one of the chief pirate family who was held hostage by jingyuan ou family. Because that pirate can possibly turn camp n surrender to court. There is s scene young ou activate and want the xu family spy which i think is qin to play the card of separating the husband n wife 0111 by creating suspicion for one another. I doubt that is an useful card haha... Of all the card to use that will fall flat.. I dont forsee them not trusting each other.

Ya.. This is the one i don like. Makes him look hunch n droppy.. I feel is structure of the fabric. It is too soft. Iblobe his black, green, blue series. Even his white beige are nice too.

General n i is very good. I hv no prob with him pairing Angela baby. She has a poker face in the drama (audience felt she cant act) because she is a highly intelligent military strategist that beat her hubby chu beijie played by Wallace. Again Wallace seems to live that era with his elegant demeanour as wangye n perfect general cum strategist.. Like here as our houye. That onebis more on armour n war etc. Herebis more politics n court. Kisses in general n i were smoking hot. Only negative point is the horrid green screen n many times the leads are kinda pasted together. Itvwas obvious so it rid the joy of watching. N there is a crazy stupid 13 episode separation when she lead him to believe she died. Again wallace acting was top notch. Ending was a HE. But too quickly wrapped up. I hope t&s gives us at least 2 episodes of life together after imprisonment n beheading drama. Their mundane family building story. N scenes of our houye w a baby esp if he has a daughter woll be perfect. Xu family are full of boys. We need a princess. I really hope the prison thingy will not last more than 2 episodes hehe

Fate. Haha... If he stayed longer on that fateful day of the escape day or arrive like 1 min a earlier she will likely his. Haha.... Uncut version https://www.instagram.com/p/CMd6d7MADNH/?igshid=11gn25rn5pgke https://www.instagram.com/p/CMeAxl1gQi8/?igshid=3tu3euor6sq9 Got a hotter version that got censor.. Aikksss

Agree 100%. His riding wesr makes him look very well built. Some if his home robes makes hia posture look old from behind. I reckon old n young ou n his wife are snakes. Old man is the type if it os not 200% don move n his weakness is his younger son ou yx. Young ou keep wanting to show his ability to his dad because he is n still not name as the successor to the marquis title. He is terribly worry about ou yx. So the ore he want to prove himself the more mistakes he make. N his schemes becomes immature n fsncy listening to thsy wife of his. I would be worry more on the old marquis. He has fell lingyi father n brother before. He just hasn't move yet. I hope ou yx will be spared affer the family deed are exposed. Can see he js a gentleman who is kind n fair n supportive of lingyi cause for the sea ban lift. My feeling is either he is spared n take over as next marquis jingyuan title because it is a noble title of generations too but only turn rotten under this generation of ou. Or he choose to go back to travelling n trading everywhere. Hope he choose the former so 0111 has more friends n foes in court. He is too nice n handsome to hv a bad ending.n can see he longing look on shiyi lessen ad episode past by. Its more of a good friend. So i don hv sml syndrome but i really like him as personality. N love the way he is straightforward to 01. N 01 is so cute being jealous as a male to male thingy but not disliking him because he says i trust my wife discernment.. She says u r good, i trust her. Iron steel bucket this couple.

So handsome...lean n tall. Ancient clothing need lean n tall male to carry csuse wearing msmy layers. 8f original too bulky w the layering they will look fat or stocky. If too thin then not manly.. Wallace is just nice.

I forsee my self rewatching. They r so nice these episodes. Even 28 n 29 i rewatch once. Even though it was ao tearful. But those tears were besutiful. Love shiyi crush tears with her maid holding her... They says houye died. Love his hurt to his soul pain when he says i thought our feelings are mutual n our hearts understood one another.. Looks like it is only me that feels that way. It is only me who believe there is ever an us... Omg that looming of his tears in his eyes yet it did not drop cause like what he says to chunge... boys cannot cry to easily. We must solve the problem. Imagine that hurt.

Actually I thought it was a good change but material looks soft n unironed. Everytime he wear i want to say someone iron it please. I think it looks droppy on him. Rest of his clothing have good firm structure which fit his build. This one dont.