Seung-Min

Although most of us had rewatch LF over and over, I still want to join rewatching episodes again (and will try not to miss) although I’m really busy.

EP. 3 shows SM sensitivity to the needs of the kids which is of course out of her natural motherly instinct with the help of her child psychology cert. that was of real good use. When grace had trouble peeing, SM immediately understood.

This made me admire SM more and I believe, SG admired SM for this as well. This is a great addition to reasons why SG will love SM. 

SM getting child cert. same with Seung gi is the first aspect they have in common and probably this is among the first topic they talk about while getting to know each other. Whenever they have time, they probably talk about what they have learned from child psychology short course and applied in children so far. 

Yihan orbiting around Brooke is certainly what happened to SG and SM as well. Like kids, they are not aware, this is what they are doing 😅

A Drone shot like this, SG and SM talking to each other, forming a great team, and a little away from kids, makes me think of the many times they were probably like this but was not shown to us.

Me after watching ep. 7 

Although I know it’s not really possible but better be updated, who knows, brains can now be transplanted 😳 Unless BR is a monkey 😅.

If I remember it right, someone mentioned here about PD Choi being an accomplice or a killer as well and probably she’s right. Nothing’s still clear though. I can only assume. 

By the way, that ‘aching heart’ of BR for PD Choi is another thing. Since I do not believe that the brain of YH being transplanted to BR unless Mouse is a fantasy drama, I guess BR and PD Choi knew each other way before? 

2 hours ago, Warm Paws said:

 

He wasn't really mentioned that much in this ep right? Can't believe he still hasn't woken up (if he hasn't), I mean, from what I saw, his injury didn't seem to be worse than what BR experienced and he's already awake, so...

The scene was short. His mom was comforted by BR..HH stitched him while they wait for ambulance right? 🤔 If YH was the culprit, being his doctor, he can always kill him easily. Although if YH is a psychopath or IF BR is, to see him suffer is probably the goal. He might be too afraid to wake up @Warm Paws 😅

9 minutes ago, SnowBlob said:

 oh wow... sooo PO could be another psychopath?!?!?!?!? Whoaaa.. what happened if after all..PO is the serial killer? (hmmm did someone here already say that?). And yes maybe that's how the lady politician ties in to the story in this drama. 

What if Chikook will wake up before BR regains his full memory? Chikook will wake up after BR and MC already solved many crime mysteries together and bonded so much and became close to each other. He will wake up and reveal that BR is the one who tried to kill him and to BR ‘s surprise because he did not know he is actually a psychopath SK and then it will help him gain back all his memory and will now become MC’s greatest enemy with emotions attached because they became close already.

Don’t worry, I will be the first person to laugh at myself if all my theories are wrong 😁 

3 hours ago, Darkarcana said:

Yes, I think the story will be us and BR finding out who he truly is and I think ChiKook & the night before YH’s death will trigger the real situation and background on BR. It’s sort of good that he doesn’t know his yet, so that he can search it up and find out it’s him all along, so that he can repent. Which fits the concept. I’m also wondering like, I feel at the end of the day, the biggest monster might be BR which MC have to face. @Seung-Min

Chi-kook could also be a strong witness of who really attempted to kill him. It would be the end of BR if he wakes up. Probably BR will not kill him without a fight because it’s not fun. What is fun is seeing him suffering like a veggie in the hospital and fooling his family. I’m thinking like a psychopath now hahaha 

35 minutes ago, SnowBlob said:

@ktcjdrama there was another baby in the car?? I already forgot which scene it was  ???? 

 

So isnt the boy in the yellow clothes HH's son? Or we still dont know either of whose son he was? 

 

Now for some reasons I'm changing my mind...if BR isnt the serial killer...i'm.hoping he wont turn to be one. I'm ok with this becoming a drama of a street smart det partnering with a 'psychopath' det who never kills a person. What a great team! I dont want MC to be pitted against BR anymore...it will be too much for #teammoochi 

 

Loved ep 7 and cant wait for ep 8!

Yeah..it will be too much for moo chi 😔

1 hour ago, Darkarcana said:

I was watching live and I can tell you I have a gut feeling that before YH went to meet Br, he met HJ and I think he told her something. So when I see the new HJ something tells me that she looks very vengeful towards Bareum, to the way she speaks to the way she looks. So she would follow them. She might even suspect BR being the knot killer who knows. Haha

Insightful..if he told HJ and assuming he’s not really the killer, then why would she get rid of their child? Maybe she doesn’t want to take chances? coz there’s no 100% assurance that YH offspring will be among 1% genius gene just like his dad.

55 minutes ago, ktcjdrama said:

Not a baby in a car per se. It was in ep.1. When HH's wife went to get her test result. Daniel got a call and he went out to give an envelope to someone in the car. I assume it was a test result that is positive, judging from his serious look. We're not shown who is in the car, probably the pregnant mother? Which is why I assume there were at least 3 mothers/babies tested.

The car has a green and white plate which means it is a gov’t vehicle. Probably the chief (PO’s dad) who is now running for President? Did they check if their child is carrying a psychopath gene? did they mention how many prenatal months will it take to identify such gene? It is also possible that the person inside the govt vehicle is the lady government official and she was handed a copy of gene analysis report of the moms.

3 minutes ago, Darkarcana said:

I feel at the end of the day, the biggest monster might be BR which MC have to face.

Yeah, I do think, this will be the bottomline.

PD Choi surely has other ulterior and personal motive in doing her own investigation. She has informations very vital for MCs investigation but purposely withheld it. Just don’t make her access to confidential infos very easy please hahahah Imagine if she will only reveal whatever she knows then it will be the end of the show hahahah 

She must have discovered something in that dusty room which we don’t have any idea as of the moment although wild guessing, it’s a file that store important information about the children identified with psychopath genes. Still connecting this with the hunch that the children are being followed/monitored. The gov’t official receiving that old tape sure knows many undisclosed information and will probably divulge it only if it will give her political leverage.

Mouse sure makes me dizzy with many characters that has personal stories that has potential to complete the puzzle. Yeah, 20 episodes is truly looongggg that’s why the story should not only revolve around BR.

This is what happens when a series get us all hyped up from the starting episodes and then suddenly, a fresh start and we were told, a year had passed hahahah

Fresh from watching Ep. 7, I’m not so sure what to say..haha what irritates me is how PD Choi can easily access supposed to be highly restricted room that stores valuable evidences. I don’t like this kind of writer’s move.

Better Bareum’s memory be truly affected because I will find it really lame if all those “self-talk” about not knowing anyone after waking up and all those aching head when he regains a memory are fake and was only designed to fool as viewers. If his memory is indeed affected, then he might be truly the SK and was unaware about it. Now he shares to Detective Ko how psychopath thinks being a psychopath himself. Oh please..I don’t think Bareum just became a genius after the incident. He is genius from the very start but hide his true self. HH knows how to wake him up, sort of helping him regain his memory and he knows Mouse is something that will trigger his memory back. This plot twist is what will drag the story up to 20 episodes 😅I hope my love for SG will push me to continue watching it. PD Choi easy accessibility to crime scenes and even evidence room and all sort of knowing YH being the killer’s son but never sharing it to GMC really irks me. I hope this is all intentional and not a plot hole coz it’s just plain disappointing. 

This made my day! 😂

After watching 6 episodes, I will still stand by my previous theories about BR being JH and being the serial killer. I maybe fooled but I was moved by YH tears. No way he’s pretending to cry there because what good will it make if he cries while dying? I hope he’s not yet dead. Moo chi reconstructing the crime scene thru his imagination with YH in front of him is out of prejudice. The bloody shoes can be a set-up.

I will also continue watching out how politics will play a big part in the story. Still sticking to my hunch that they are monitoring the children being identified with psychopath genes per gene report analysis submitted to a government vehicle by Dr. Daniel.

Aside from BY being a useful shield to mask BR’s true identity and yes, to lure YH as well, being the manipulative psychopath that he is. Here, she asked the priest if he believes in God.

They had this convo, 

I find BY unbelief made her not a target.

BR is not also completely giving info to Moo chi such as how he knew YH way back high school days. How he knows that the ‘killer’ he apparently met smells mint and even finding that CD fave by Chi Kook seemed fishy to me. He is probably there for another reason. I also find it funny how BR easily climb the YH gate which is not too high actually while Moo Chi taking the time hiring a hacker 😂

Well, this is just me. I do actually consider the theory of BR as JH and the true SK, a mundane and predictable twist but how the writer will enlighten the viewers about his life, how the answers to many questions unfold make it exciting and truly something to look forward.

29 minutes ago, ishipSGxSM said:

and even the steel bars/fence behind him is cooperating with our delulu hearts. it's green 🤣

lol 🤣 I was about to buy a pearl mint color blouse a while ago when it caught my eye. Only it didn’t suit my style but its just really crazy when anything related to green automatically catches our attention 😂

10 hours ago, LFCouple said:

I joined this forum from page 2, and remember how I “force” myself to write every now and then to keep the forum alive;

I was off the grid for 3 days and I missed celebrating 100th page with you fam. Do you know that it takes 25 posts to create 1 page of this forum? We are now nearing 105 pages which means almost 2625 posts had been contributed in this forum 😲

Bravo for all the hard work (it takes much of our time as well as effort) 👏👏👏

I told myself I will try not to be too sentimental about it anymore but after reading this “force” thing from you @LFCouple, I laughed as I tried not to be teary-eyed as I can relate with you and @SilverMoonTea was true when she said that back then, “it was a lonely fight.”

More lurkers are now deciding to join the fun because we are blessed to have kind and well-mannered members here which makes me proud because it actually reflects the kind of couple we ship. When some of us sometimes lose cool because we are only human beings, another will try to lift the mood and make it lighter. We all try our best to agree to disagree and respect each other’s thoughts and feelings. When an intruder dares to mess up, a lurker will show up and defend us even before we start to rebut and give the troll our two cents.

@SGxSM is also quick to report to the admin any gate crasher haha so that no more time will be wasted in trying to convince an obvious opposition 😉

With so many posts now, it is almost impossible to read from first page and it would even take much time to read back when we missed even just a day of not visiting this thread haha

No pressure for new members to read back but if you have a FOMO, so might as well take your time to read back hahaha 

100 thread pages and counting helped us come up with an original idea. Calling SeungMin as   “Blueberry Couple.” 

Cheers to more pages of fun! Happy Blueberry Couple shipping 🫐🎉

1 hour ago, SGxSM said:

Deal 🤝

But I will also take a lot of selfies with them 😂😂

can i join you also? I’ll carry everything 😂, I can even be your driver and will promise to bring two americano to boost the couple’s energy and of course coffee of your choice as well @SGxSM @Lin M 😁

1 hour ago, Poisonous Ivy said:

but if they were planning to send gifts or token just let me know i someone, she is the who always brought flowers and cakes to Hyun Bin and SYJ agencies..she lives in SK i can contact her if ever we will send something for seungmin ..

Just like SG to Somin, I can already imagine your contact rolling down while trying to deliver our Blue Berry Tree @Poisonous Ivy 🫐🤪😁 Kidding aside, it doesn’t have to be Blueberry tree but the thought excites me. Since messages related to personal matters are prohibited, we can of course send a message in a subtle way 😉

Been a busy week and since I wanted to rewatch Ep. 2 without cheating (meaning, without fast forwarding scenes 😂), it took me days to finish rewatching and it’s only now that I finally manage write something about it.

I love @SilverMoonTea’s idea of giving her own title and here’s my own Heading for it.

Episode 2: The Battlefield

Episode 2 is just half day of the Day 2 of shoot and the excitement of the aunts and uncles from day 1 and from all their preparations, day 2 became extra tiring. It’s also their first time to handle 5 kids and definitely, all of them are still adjusting to the responsibilities. 
 

Episode 2 also gave us an idea on how SG initiates conversation with SM despite being hungry and exhausted 😁. SG’s energy and professionalism is truly remarkable. SM on the other hand tried to respond but in short sentences and SG was quick to observe her silence but in the last minutes of the episode, we can hear SM telling NR about not being feeling well which adds to her exhaustion. Probably, this was also the reason SM wasn’t as responsive or didn’t give much lively reaction like the usual during their lunch time.

For crumbs, SG mirrored SM here literally eating Yi heon’s crumb 😂 and I hope, SM eating the child’s crumb in the table also caught SG’s attention because here we can see how SM is not the typical ‘IT Girl’. She embodies a simple, humble and definitely not the image of a rich and spoiled kid. Other single women might not eat it anymore because they will consider it dirty. I will confess that when I was not yet a mom, I don’t drink from someone else’s cup but after having kids of my own, all of that changed. Haha In Somin’s case however, she really has the qualities of a mom despite being single not to mention being an actress and very beautiful among them all (yeah, just let me be biased 😂). She definitely doesn’t have the “Pretty Syndrome.” and I’m hopeful, Seung gi recognized that as well. 

Episode 3 which is the continuation of day 2 has interesting scenes and looking forward to rewatch soon. 

Let’s keep our love for SeungMin burnin’ 🔥🫐

1 more additional of blueberry benefit, it's our "official nation ship plant" 

Yes! Blue berry is our official nation ship plant @SilverMoonTea 😅 I’m even thinking that if we can last a whole year of being active in this forum, let’s find a way to coordinate with fan club leaders so that we can give a blue berry plant to both SG and SM on their birthdays or a form of congratulatory gift if they have accomplished something. Maybe @Poisonous Ivy has connections 😉. A way of letting them know and their agencies know that we have a haven and SeungMin fans exist, supporting SeungMin and waiting for a project for both of them 🙏🏻

1 hour ago, Lin M said:

Same, the only ones we could get are packed and dried ones😂😂😂

Oh! I love blueberry jam from the grocery 😂

2 minutes ago, ishipSGxSM said:

MITH episode 163 in now on viu. let's just watch and enjoy! hope we can find some crumbs. don't get stressed out on those negativities. here at our haven, we will just have fun and love seungmin and each other more. aja!

Thank you for the heads up! I kept on checking Viu actually because I’m excited to watch MITH.

@LsgJsm thank you for taking time to visit us despite your busy sched.,please don’t leave us permanently okay? hahhaaha you are a solid SM shipper who made me love SM more. Take care with whatever you’re up to in the real world now hhahaa Feel free to visit our haven whenever you have time 😘

5 minutes ago, Sosomingi said:

@Seung-Min I try to remember SG co star with the drama name. 

1. Han hyo joo (briliant legacy)

2. Shin min ah (my girl friend is gumiho)

3. Bae suzy (gu family book & vagabond)

4. Ha ji won ( the king 2 heart)

5. Go ara (you are surrounded)

6. Oh yoon seo ( a korrean oddessy)

 

 Name on this list is a famous actress in SK

 

Do you know SG movies co-stars also? I do remember the faces of his kdrama co-actors. I watch 2 dramas with them as cast. It’s just easier to remember Suzy’s name because it’s english 😅 I also find Oh yoon seo pretty although I only watched her in korean oddessy.

Being famous also doesn’t mean having a movie or drama every year. The likes of Ha Ji Won I guessed carefully chooses her project as well and she’s stable enough to refuse. I do think also that SG is stable enough not to rely on his co-actors fame to accept a project. I also believe that with all the competition going, more international films/projects getting notice, the story/script and director are now being considered as well. Not just how famous the actors are. This is why actors especially the famous ones now choose their projects carefully because viewers are becoming more and more critical. 

Maybe long time SG fans here can help enlighten @Sosomingi here? ☺️ Because I cannot really remember the names of her past co-stars, maybe some of their faces,.except for Vagabond, BL and the one where he acted as prince although it’s only Suzy’s name I can memorize. For those kdrama addicts here and familiar with all the actresses she worked with, do they have a project/kdrama or movie at least once a year? Coz SM has 1-2 projects every year not including her cameo roles and endorsements. How amazing that SM was casted in Hook produced VS despite the commenter’s observation of SM not being famous enough.

No matter how I avoid being affected by someone undermining Minmin and even if I am not even a member of her fan site nor did I watch all of her shows, reading comments like that still irks me. Maybe because, I don’t give comment to SG’s co-stars like Not being Pretty Enough to be partnered with SG to avoid hurting their fans. 

1 hour ago, Tothestars said:

 

 

@Seung-Min  who is SH? 

I am actually referring to YH or Yo-han but I sometimes think of using SYH but missing the middle Y there 😅

11 hours ago, Warm Paws said:

 

Though it will ultimately be fruitless to try and figure it out, it's still fun! 

Still hesitant to actually share my theories because we are still on ep. 4 but I’ll agree that it is indeed fun to try playing “detective” and whether we are right or wrong, having something to look back (personal theories formulated) before the big reveal is exciting.

Now here are my theories about JBR’s true identity based on four episodes. I don’t know if my theories were already mentioned before coz again, I did not have the luxury of time to read back except for latest pages.

Finally,  I get to use this spoiler box for the first time. hahaha The last time, I mentioned about not being sure if BR is JH or maybe, his stepfather’s death is just self-defense. Now, I am gearing towards BR as the psychopath killer who killed his step-father but still out of self-defense and he did not kill his mom and siblings. If@mademoiselle is right about his family being burned to death, it could probably be the reason he killed the boxer and it is actually his first ‘crime’.

Seeing the silhouette of the killer here made me think of BR not YH.

Disclaimer: The views and opinions of yours truly is purely based in my limited intellect and not necessarily true. 

Hahahah 

Anyway, killers uniform (black hoodie and black cap) is very common in crime/thriller genre that the next time I’ll see someone wearing them will definitely give me goosebumps 😬

12 hours ago, Warm Paws said:

 

Who's going to join me trying to figure out what the 'standard' of the victims is? I think it's something fun to do till next week, then it'll be revealed in the first 5 mins of ep5. 

 

Here's my current theory after ep4:

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I still think that JBR is innocent at this point. I feel like that scene is a 'flash-forward' to the end of their investigation, and he's there cause they already caught YH, or at least know that he's the predator and they already raided YH's house. 

 

Dunno why I put theories in spoilers, but I guess kinda adds to the suspense. 😆 

@mademoiselle I'm not sure. I don't remember anything that suggests that he has another sibling, or that he was missing someone else.

 

He had a picture of himself with Jennifer and Han Seo Joon in his wallet, so it felt to me that he only had her. 

 

@mademoiselle @Warm Paws During Dr. Daniel’s visit to HSJ, the former casually asked Dr. Daniel if he found his younger brother.

He answered he is still searching and did not find him yet. I hope his brother will seek justice for his death. 

They also discussed about the bill and Dr. Daniel confirmed that it was rejected.

While going back to this episode, I think that the gov’t official questioning the chairman’s decision of voting against the bill will serve as a warning and a possible death of the chairman’s son who is now a police officer as well and especially that the chairman is now planning to run for presidency. If @Darkarcana’s theory is right about the victims having followers/audience, then the politician’s son is a perfect prey.

It will be a boomerang!.

I’ll leave this here to keep us inspired for tomorrows rewatch 😆

Imagine SG this charming while waiting for SM because he wanted to surprise her for her birthday 🤤 Okay bye...😂

6 hours ago, WaterCat said:

I'm sure Grace shipped them as hard as we all did. SoMin captured Grace's heart since day 1...just like what she did to Yujin... They both confessed to SM as well..SM got this drawing from Grace saying I love you on the 2nd week. I was so Aww when Grace cried for SM on Chuseok week... She really loved and grew attached to aunt SM. My theory was that Grace knew that SG liked SM. Hint, she wasn't asleep yet when SG sneaked a glance at SM on their car ride back from the valley... And she witnessed lot of uncut scenes too..lucky her 😁😁😁My observation and interpretation are that Grace had been observing/secretly rooting for SG to hit on SM. She definitely had her field day with the yoga and swing moments.... I couldn't get enough of that face expression of Grace.

They still hanged out after LF too SM and the twins... SM was featured on their mom blog once in 2020 when they came to Seoul for kid fashion shooting. SM met up with them.

There are days I want to be Perro...then sometimes Modu...then yes, during LF, I wish to be Grace even just for a day and I will follow SMxSG wherever they are although I will give them their moment of course..I’ll just pretend to be stone or something 🤦‍♀️😂