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23 hours ago, SilverMoonTea said:
Confused as heck too 😂
1. Like you said maybe JY's brain is transferred inside CW. Mr Queen in reverse 😂
2. Some said JY became like Jang Yong Sil in AI form.
3. There is speculation too about she's being moved to JY's twin sister body. My understanding her ashes already being cremated. But 🤷♀️
4. Maybe JY inside the box preserved and so separated with CW. Maybe all of her organ has been replaced.
5. JY on another location and he wake up because of his super hearing. I'd like to believe this version lols.
47 minutes ago, mademoiselle said:@peperomia I see you online, are you done with this? What's your take on the ending?
@mademoiselle Yes, I just finished this! Came to read thoughts on the finale here and it looks like I am in the smallest minority. I wasn't totally weirded out by the ending. My interpretation was #5 on @SilverMoonTea's list above, but the majority believes it is #1? I need to re-watch the last scene. I think Lee Soo Yeon might've done it this way intentionally to mess with our brains. LOL.
Overall, I enjoyed the show even though I felt the story went somewhat off tangent toward the end. I had a strange feeling when Ja Yu volunteered to do the cultured organ transplants on herself, but it was foreshadowing of how she would survive the accident? Still, it was great to see JJH in a drama again. Like @SilverMoonTea, I liked his chemistry with HHJ and the slight hints of romance. LOL. Finally, I get to see LHJ as a villain and LMS as a good guy. He was such a a bad man in Hide that I couldn't shake-off that he could be the traitor though out, but he proved me wrong. LOL. I think because he was so calm and collected in the aftermath of things, both Ja Yu and Chae Woon are alive and well.
18 hours ago, mademoiselle said:I think Sisyphus is still Top of the God Tier for bad ending. It's offensively bad in so many aspects. The first offence was advertising it to be the biggest blockbuster of JTBC (an anniversary drama) when it is not. Second offence, extremely shitty action scenes. Third offence, for hiring Jo Seung Woo and gave him such a bad script to play. Fourth, fifth and sixth offence being badly written storyline with no logic, bad cinematography and directing respectively.
Blood Free, on the other hand, the story wasn't that bad. Acting was not bad too and as you can see the pairing is visually matching. Action scenes, I am not impressed. It might look better if they sped it up 1x instead at normal speed. It just looks too slow and unnatural (as in, they look too choreographed).
I agree...Sisyphus is still on top of the bad list overall. In my opinion, Blood Free story wasn't bad. Acting was good, but OMG, I totally agree that the action scenes were awful! They made JJH look awkward in some of them which were a shame.
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On 5/8/2024 at 9:25 PM, abs-oluteM said:
peperomia Just glad this is over. A bit of a waste for two of my VIP oppas over a plot that kept going round and round.
Unfortunately there was zero chemistry between TaeHyeon and Jung Won . But I guess for his sake I was okay they had a happy ending.
As to WooJae , they should have kept him as the killer. It was sad that he was just a victim too - manipulated by his own father.
I do like this scene. Jang Seung Jo being a dad IRL would be perfect in a role where his a dad too. Hahah.
@abs-oluteM Thanks for sticking through this one with me...and your 2 VIP oppas. LOL. Hope they pick a better project next time. But yes, I really liked JSJ's father/daughter scene too - very natural and your note about him being a dad in real life makes sense why.
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11 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:
peperomia I am all caught up but this show took way too long to get to where it is. I believe the plot only needed 12 episodes at most cause it was painfully slow to see them find things out . Perhaps that's why they call this show Nothing Uncovered? Cause there are just layers and layers of lies covering the truth?
Anyway, I am glad that Woo Jae finally decided to do the right thing. This is the only way he would set himself free from his own guilt and his father's expectations. He's arc has been the most interesting in this show. Please let them catch his old man tonight. I don't want to see him go free. As to the romance between the leads, I honestly don't care.
@abs-oluteM Just watched the finale. Totally agree that the story didn't need to be this long! Definitely "Nothing Uncovered" suits the title. LOL. Mystery-wise, I was disappointed.
SpoilerIt focused mainly on Lee Na Ri and the cover-up. It could’ve done a better job of bringing to light Woo Jae’s father’s role in the deaths of Jung Won’s father, Cha Eun Sae and Lee Da Reun. Also, it could’ve revealed Woo Jae’s father’s role in the chemical plant fire and how it tied into the development of his resort. The victims, including the housekeeper’s husband who was the scapegoat for the fire, didn’t get their justice. I’m really upset that Woo Jae’s father wasn’t found guilty and it barely touched upon Mo Hyung Taek’s punishment. The revelation of their crimes was long-winded and weak.
About Woo Jae, I’m not certain how I feel about his final arc yet. I thought it was exciting when we were misled that he was the killer. However, from the flashbacks, he did seem like a good kid so his road to redemption does make sense in the end. It was good to see him finally make the right choices and pay for his crimes. (His father should be to jail with him too!)
Like you, I couldn’t connect with Jung Won and Tae Heon’s romance either, but I do prefer a happy ending. So, after 3 years, I’m glad they got it. (I must say though, it was awkward seeing Tae Heon cry several times over their relationship. LOL.)
No doubt that Jung Won’s character could’ve been written better, but I do respect her for keeping her baby. Daughter is adorable and I commend her for keeping Woo Jae in her daughter’s life. If I were her, I’m not sure that I could do it.
It feels good to check this one off now. I hope they'll be a good crime/mystery drama out soon. This and other recent ones have been such let downs.
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Just watched episode 15. Honestly, it wasn’t exciting, but I guess the developments were necessary to reach the end:
Spoiler- Of course, Tae Heon survived the stabbing by the secretary.
- Secretary initially fled and went on the run, but he was eventually arrested. During the interrogation, he admitted to the killings, including Lee Na Ri. However, the latter was only part of a deal with Woo Jae’s father.
- So, Mo Hyung Taek and Woo Jae’s father don’t trust each other. They’re always looking for each other’s weaknesses to use them as bargaining chips. Because Mo Hyung Taek was worried about his situation in all this, he asked Jung Won to meet him. He told her about his meeting with her father the day before his death. Because of the dirt that Jung Won’s father had dug up about the corruption, he knew he would likely die because of the evidence so he hid it. Mo Hyung Taek told Jung Won that it was up to her find it. When she accessed it, it was her father’s video recording of Woo Jae fatally hitting Lee Na Ri with the car.
- Woo Jae’s father company received an award and Woo Jae was supposed to give an acceptance speech in front of the media. Instead, he used this opportunity to admit killing Lee Na Ri and that his father covered it up. Seemed like Woo Jae didn’t want to turn into a monster like his father. Also, he didn’t want to hurt Jung Won and his child anymore. The episode ends with Tae Heon arresting him.
- Based on the preview, it looks like Woo Jae’s father is going to use Woo Jae’s mental instability and drug use against him.
Last episode tomorrow...finally!
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11 hours ago, mademoiselle said:
QoT
I totally know what you mean about the writer. Out of her works, I only liked My Love From the Star and this one. MLFTS was unique at the time because it's an alien falling for a human. It's also my first drama of hers. But as you watched too many of the writers' works, you also learnt of their writing styles. This one, agreed with you. It's unique the way the story started off with them married and not on good terms. And yes, KSH and KJW are significant to the success of the show. So is the rest of the casts.
LR
Hopefully you'd start this soon! It would be nice to do all the fangirling together. Hahaha! Also, if you like Baek Hyun Woo, you will sure to love Ryu Sun Jae here.
Blood Free
This one is actually not as great as I had hoped. In last week's episodes, both Tea and I concluded them as "something happened, but also nothing happened." 😅 On contrary, LR's last week's episode (especially 8) was the best.
Look forward to the finale week of this drama. 😆
SpoilerQoT
Yes! The rest of the cast did a wonderful job as well. Seems like they all got close with each other in real life too. I'm really glad you and abs-oluteM recommended this to me. I liked it so much that I may re-watch it again at some point but forward some parts. LOL. Since I've finished now, I plan to check out thoughts on the QoT thread.
LR
LOL. Okay, I will try to start this! The lead actress and and actor will be new to me which should be refreshing.
BF
I started this last night. I'm at ep 5. A bit slow burn but it's interesting so far and the quality of the writing is there. But, based on what you're saying, it seems to hit a slump right before the finale. I might finish in time to catch the end with you ladies in the BF thread.
@mademoiselle Yes! See you and @SilverMoonTea next week for this drama!
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@mademoiselle @SilverMoonTea About the other dramas...
SpoilerQoT
Call me crazy, but I wasn't wow'd by the writer's previous works so I wasn't expecting that I would feel for QoT this much. I thought the couple's story was unique. Already husband and wife but had lost their way from each other. (And, due to loss of a baby does happen in real life.) Their journey to find their love again was beautiful, yet heartbreaking because of the tragic undertones. I thought Hae In's illness and Hyun Woo's fight for her in this were a lovely portrayal of the vow "in sickness and in health". I cried so much. KSH and KJW did great in this!
I also really enjoyed watching the in-laws grow so close with each other. Well done here!
LR
I've read LR receiving amazing reviews and ratings so I understand why you ladies are recommending it. I will add this to my list, but I'm not sure when I would be able to start this. I've been meaning to get to Blood Free and plan to start this weekend.
@abs-oluteM Did you watch this week's episodes? They're not a must, but do let me know what you think of the finale next week!
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I watched episode 14. Some developments were...
Spoiler- It’s certain Woo Jae killed Lee Na Ri.
- Secretary killed Cha Eun Sae. It was ordered by Woo Jae’s father because she knew Woo Jae killed Lee Na Ri.
- Secretary killed Lee Ba Reun. It’s unclear why the secretary was there.
- Secretary killed Jung Won’s father. It was also ordered by Woo Jae’s father because Jung Won’s father was investigating his corruptions in Mueon and also witnessed Woo Jae fatally hit Lee Na Ri.
- I had thought that the fire was intentionally set by Woo Jae’s and Mo Hyung Taek. It seems to be true that they wanted to wipe out the factory so that they could build the resort over the land. Still wondering if Yoon Young was paid to do it.
- Tae Heon figured out the knife belongs to his mentor (the secretary). He had seen it before. Tae Heon went to confront his mentor and was stabbed. Episode ends. Based on the preview, Tae Heon is okay! Looks like we'll also find out why his partner was killed.
I'm kind of glad the finale is next week. LOL.
15 hours ago, mademoiselle said:I'm shocked @SilverMoonTea is still here and updated whilst she struggles with Queen of Tears and Lovely Runner. What...?! Wae yo? Wae? LOL.
@peperomia I'm here in spirit and supporting you all to finish for my sake. HAHAHA!
LOL. I'm totally okay with you supporting us in spirit here! Not watching Lovely Runner, but I'm in the process of finishing up Queen of Tears. It took a few episodes for me to get into it, but OMG, I love the couple's story so much. That's all I will say here.
15 hours ago, SilverMoonTea said:Haha I have some sort of attachment to YWJ maybe... and it's investigation. And I already too far by now lols...
I took a liking to YWJ too. Will definitely check out his next drama.
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6 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:
@peperomia ep 13
I am confused. Woo Jae didn't kill Nari for sure. But did he kill Cha Eun Sae? Now I am no longer sure. I believe that Det Kim's mentor is the one that killed JW's father, and so given the knife, I am guessing he killed Eun Sae too. But did he kill BaReum?
@abs-oluteM I am confused myself. LOL.
SpoilerI believe it's certain that Woo Jae killed Lee Na Ri via the car accident. However, suddenly, it's up in the air whether he killed Cha Eun Sae and Jung Won's father. So, did Jung Won only imagined Woo Jae as the culprit in the video footage left by Yoon Young? LOL. You're right. It's shaping to be that the secretary/Tae Heon's mentor is the real culprit. I think Woo Jae killed Lee Ba Reun, but it could be the secretary. Maybe he was there because Woo Jae's father sent him to retrieve Lee Na Ri's remains before the detectives find them.
I haven't seen ep 14 yet. Let's see where the writer wants to take the story next. LOL.
6 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:TBH, this show is not like a must watch if you ask me @mademoiselle @SilverMoonTea. There are some twist and turns that caught me by surprise but would that be enough for me to recommend this wholeheartedly? Not really . I have very different reasons for sticking on plus I have come too far to give up now.
5 hours ago, SilverMoonTea said:I just finished watching the latest episode and the writer had too much in her sleeves lols. I just recommending this to my real life friend, let her suffer with me. She said YWJ is stunning, so I just let it be 😅 Tbh, it's not too bad because somehow I'm still here and up to date 😂
@abs-oluteM I agree this show is not a much watch and would not necessarily recommend it. I just don't want to watch it alone. LOL. I started it for JSJ and the mystery. Like @SilverMoonTea, I don't think it's bad which is why I'm still here as well. Each week, I'm not certain if anyone will be present here. Honestly, I'm shocked you ladies are still here. I do think the remaining episodes are better. I like seeing the sinister side of JSJ as Woo Jae. He pulls it off well. I'm glad I got to know who is YWJ.
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On 4/24/2024 at 5:43 PM, SilverMoonTea said:
@peperomia are you going to check this out? It's the only drama that excite me at the moment.
So behind with Nothing Uncovered lols. Actually I don't like the couple love story. It will be better if they're not an ex lover before. Maybe will check it this weekend lols.
@SilverMoonTea I do plan to watch this. I will not miss out Ju Ji Hoon. Just haven't had the chance to start yet, but I think I can this coming Sunday.
SpoilerAbout Nothing Uncovered, I'm not against romance, but it's not executed well here. I don't like how it affects Tae Heon as a detective and crying like a baby. Mystery-wise, I thought this week's episodes were better. If you have time, I would give it another try. If you can't continue though, I totally understand. LOL.
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@abs-oluteM I watched episode 12.
SpoilerYes. So sad. Looks like Woo Jae was just driving and accidentally hit Na Ri with his father's car. I assume it would've been hard for him to avoid hitting her if she was escaping and running wherever. Based on the emergency call, he tried to do the right thing, but yeah, his father must've intervened and covered it up. Staying silent about it all this time is still terrible though.
What's interesting is it seems Woo Jae's father was eyeing the plant/factory for awhile to build his resort over it, but he was having a hard time acquiring it. I wonder if there's more to it than just Yoon Young and Soo Rin just setting it off because of Lee Na Ri. A part me thinks Mo Hyung Taek might've paid Yoon Young to do it. Helping Woo Jae's father helps him politically.
Woo Jae's father's secretary was a detective and also Tae Heon's former supervisor. I also wonder if he may have helped with the cover up. If so, it will be another disappointment for Tae Heon as he seems to look up to him.
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@abs-oluteM I was shocked myself! I wasn't expecting the twists either. In some ways, the writer's tactics are kind of gimmicky, but I'll applaud her for the wow factor and her ability to blindside us. LOL.
SpoilerI also think it's highly likely that Woo Jae might've killed Lee Na Ri. Now, did he kill Jung Won's father because he might've found out something about this?
I really like the Woo Jae plot twist too. Before, just the mental and emotional instability made his character look a bit weak. Tying his psychopathy as a killer makes him much more interesting here. His crimes must be how he got his source material for his mystery novels!
I felt sorry for Tae Heon as well. The guy just can't catch a break. First, he lost his partner and possibly Jung Won again.
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18 hours ago, mademoiselle said:
@peperomia Hahaha! You're calling it train wreck. This is not promising. I swear, not another one with Jang Seung Jo in it! 😿 I supposed it shouldn't be even near as bad as Sisyphus. 😆
I intend to be back. I just feel like I need more episodes out, so that I can get to the end quicker. This, I don't mean FF. Also, I wanted to focus on my crack dramas since new episodes are out. By Friday and weekends, I'll be free to pick this back up again.
LOL. It would be a train wreck for me if the show continued on with the mentally unstable and crazy. However, Yoon Young is out of the picture now (explained in the spoiler below). So, the train might be back on track now!
Oh, which show of JSJ are you referring to? I might've skipped that one. Sisyphus was pretty bad, but I surprisingly finished it. I hardly drop thrillers/mysteries, but one that I could not finish was Mouse. That was bad for me.
Totally understandable. Whenever you do continue watching this, do let us know your thoughts.
19 hours ago, mademoiselle said:Oh what, you guys already have confirmation Yoon Young is the killer?! 😓 It's only at episode 10! I fear this early revelation/confirmation won't help with the captivating the audiences.
I watched episode 11. If true, there is a major twist to this at the end.
I'll put the major developments from episode 11 in a spoiler below. @abs-oluteM I'm curious to know what you will think about some of this.
SpoilerYoon Young kidnapped Jung Won. Her plan was to commit suicide and take Jung Won down with her. She tied a rope to each other so that they would fall off the building together. However, Woo Jae and Tae Heon came in the nick of time. Jung Won is saved, but Yoon Young dies! However, before she did, she whispered to Jung Won that it was Woo Jae who killed Cha Eun Sae! Jung Won isn't sure to believe it or not.
After Jung Won asked Woo Jae for a divorce, she found out that she’s pregnant. Woo Jae was elated, but Jung Won was distraught about it. She is contemplating an abortion. In the preview, we see her break off any potential relationship with Tae Heon. I don’t care for the romance, but poor Tae Heon!
During another interrogation, Mo Soo Rin tells Tae Heon that when she and Yoon Young were gazing at the chemical plant fire and admiring the flames, she saw Lee Na Ri escaping from there at a distant. She never told Yoon Young about this. Tae Heon and his partner do some digging and figured out that Zeus is Lee Na Ri’s younger brother. Tae Heon doubts that Lee Na Ri is alive today and thinks there was possibly another crime. He’s going to try to get in touch with her family to investigate further.
Last is the major plottwist! Yoon Young hid a memory card in Jung Won’s copy of her favorite novel by Woo Jae at their home. It showed video footage of Woo Jae being the one who fatally stabbed Cha Eun Sae. Jung Won noticed that his knife had an emblem exactly the same as the knife that killed her father! Woo Jae walks into the room and episodes ends here.
If true, I kind of like this twist. Earlier in the show, Jung Won noted that Cha Eun Sae was fatally stabbed in the stomache just like her father. So, when Jung Won was questioned by Tae Heon as a person of interest, she was disgusted that she would be accused of committing murder in the same manner as how her father was killed. So, at least, the writer is connecting this part of the crimes. If the show is making Woo Jae somewhat of a bad guy, it might as well make him the ultimate villain?
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3 hours ago, SilverMoonTea said:
I'm actually also watching this haha... I haven't caught up last week episode though. The storyline a bit to muddled for me and the FL is just so unreliable that it's hard for me to root for her. I'm not sure if it's on purpose. You know sometimes in crime novel, the unreliable narrator of the story is actually the villain lols.
Oh, you've been watching! Last week's episodes were kind of frustrating. I'm hoping the remaining episodes will be better with more secrets revealed and questions answered. I agree that the storyline isn't cohesive and it's unfortunate we can't connect with the female lead. Despite her, I thought the mystery started off decent, but then it got off track with the romance and over-the-top crazy characterization of Yoon Young, even Woo Jae sometimes. I'll finish this though because I want to know more about what happened in the past in Mueon, Lee Na Ri and Zeus. Also, I'm curious to know if Mo Hyung Taek and Woo Jae's father's had a hand in Jung Won's father's death.
If you continue watching, see you around here? LOL.
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13 hours ago, mademoiselle said:
I am up to episode 6, and I'm going to take a break from watching this. Hahaha!
You're just taking a pause, right? You'll be back on this train
wreckwith us? LOL. I've been amazed that @abs-oluteM is still watching with me. She's been saying it, but it's finally registering with me that the motivation is her two VIP oppas. LOL.13 hours ago, mademoiselle said:With the information discovered at Mueon and Yoo Yoon Yeong kept saying she wants Woo Jae dead, I'm now thinking she isn't the killer. I believe she and Woo Jae knew something about what happened to Mueon, but they had to keep quiet, and hence Yoon Yeong has certain resentment against Woo Jae. But really, it looks like Woo Jae's father and the Assemblyman might have a hand in what happened to Mueon (or a higher up political figure that everyone is covering up for).
I might be spoiling you... Only read if you want to know what was revealed about this so far:
SpoilerYoon Young is behind the present murders. She manipulated Mo Hyung Taek's daughter to commit them. Back then, they also set the chemical plant on fire in Mueon, along with Lee Na Ri's body. We saw Lee Na Ri already unconscious or dead when they lit the fire. We don't know what happened before that. My theory is there is more to be revealed about Woo Jae's involvement, whether it was with malice or pure unintentional. So, the fathers had to cover everything up. The dead housekeeper's husband was the plant manager and scapegoat. Maybe Jung Won's father unearthed something about this and was killed because of it.
13 hours ago, mademoiselle said:I'm thinking whoever killed the last 2 ladies were trying to lure both Tae Heon and Jung Won to Lee Nari's murder and the Bongta fire. Could it be Zeus? Saw above post that mentioned he is Lee Nari's brother. Since the police wouldn't re-investigate, he decided to take matters into his own hands...?
This was my original theory but my spoiler above will answer otherwise at this point. Zeus gave Jung Won tips that lead her to the 2 ladies' crime scenes so I'm still waiting to see how he fits into this picture. My theory is also that he's Lee Na Ri's younger brother who is trying to seek justice for her. Seems like the police and media (Jung Won's boss) might've took part in the cover up. Zeus doesn't seem like a "bad" person though. Just seems to be on a mission to reveal the truth, likely through Jung Won.
13 hours ago, mademoiselle said:It doesn't have enough content. It's also annoying to see Woo Jae begging Jung Won back repetitively. The broken marriage is his own doing, and there's no way this is going to mend any time soon when the wounds are still so raw.
I agree. I like JSJ and he's doing a great job as Woo Jae, but it's difficult to see his character being irrational like this. Jung Won will be asking for a divorce in the next episode. abs-oluteM and I are hoping he'll agree to it.
13 hours ago, mademoiselle said:Agree. Lee Ha Neul has never been a strong actress. I can't even feel her pain and emotions from the betrayal and hurt she's supposed to feel. Lee Yoo Young is a better actress, for sure. Too bad she's now being paired up with Moon Sang Min filming a romance drama. Noona-dongsaeng relationship plot is getting old, to be honest and they are 10 years apart. I just don't see this pairing well. She would have matched well with both Jang Seung Joo and Yeo Woo Jin with her age.
Yes. Her lack of expressions and emoting totally misses the marks! I kept thinking there'll be improvement but no!
I thought of Lee Yoo Young because I enjoyed her in The Lies Within. She did really well with the emotional and suspenseful scenes. I'll have to look up her upcoming project, but yeah, I'm not a fan of the big age gaps either. It's difficult to buy into the chemistry.
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@mademoiselle What a pleasant surprise to see you here. Since you started it, you must stay on this ride with us. LOL. I enjoyed the show up to episode 6 but it got annoying after it. 16 episodes might be the problem. It leaves too much room for nonsense. You'll find out who Zeus is halfway. I am curious to see how he's linked to everything.
I like JSJ and YWJ here, but I am not sure KHN fits the female lead role. Don't know why but I keep thinking Lee Yoo Young would've been great here acting-wise, but she deserves a better role than this. Jung Won, as a female lead and reporter, lacks basic common sense.
Anyway, stay with us!
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13 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:
Completely agree with you. The romantic moment felt out of place for sure. Also I was surprised he was so quickly reinstated - in some countries , you'd definitely be disciplined for doing what he did.
I'm relieved that I was not the only one who felt the romance was out of place. Yes, it was unrealistic that Tae Heon was not disciplined at all for acting out of procedures. To be honest, I was disappointed in him for that, but oh well now. There's so much to look pass in this drama. LOL.
13 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:I have a bit of sympathy for Mo's daughter. YYY used her affections to manipulate her to kill the housekeeper and Cha Eun Sae. And then her father threw her under the bus with the supposed expose of his family's dark secret to save his own skin and political career.
This was an interesting twist. I knew there was something odd about Mo's daughter, but I wouldn't have guessed that she killed under Yoon Young's manipulation. I wonder if there's more to their family secret or if that was really it.
13 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:I believe the next part of the show would be focused on exposing the true story of that fire & his involvement or rather what he tried to hide. I suppose it will be linked back to how JW's father died and somehow WooJae's dad is involved too.
I agree. I think the rest of the show will shift the focus to the past in Mujin and will reveal the truth behind the fire. We'll find out all of Mo Hyung Taek's dirty deeds. Woo Jae's father too. Aside from them, I still think Woo Jae might have some skeletons in his closet as well and his father covered up. Otherwise, I don't understand what their cryptic talk about sins that need to be forgiven could be. There might be more to Lee Na Ri's death. We shall see...
13 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:That said, if I thought that Jang Seung Jo was gonna play the psychopathic killer here, I was wrong. Compared to YYY, he's greatest sin was letting his own demons get the better of him. I know from the preview JW is going to ask for a divorce, and I hope he'll let her go.
Woo Jae is not a psychopathic killer, but I do think he's emotionally unstable. I'm worried of how he'll take the divorce news. Hopefully, well. He should let her go for the sake of both of them.
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I hope the remaining episodes will get the mystery plotline back on track. Some things I still want to know...
1. Jung Won's father - We can take a good guess of who might've killed him, but why exactly?
2. Who is the father of Cha Eun Sae's baby? My early guess was the Mo Hyung Taek.
3. Zeus is Jung Won's hoobae, Lee Da Reun. In the preview, it showed a photo of Lee Na Ri with a young boy. Could Zeus be her younger brother who is seeking justice for her?
4. Why did Tae Heon's partner say bad things about Jung Won as he was dying? What could be the misunderstanding? Who killed him?
5. Why did Tae Heon's former supervisor quit as a detective and became Woo Jae's father's secretary?
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On 4/11/2024 at 12:49 AM, mademoiselle said:
Oh. Did not realise it is written by Lim Soo Yeon, who wrote Stranger! But she wrote Grid, too, and that one left us hanging.
You know, maybe the romance will be hinted and bare minimum because neither Stranger nor Grid have romance blossoming. OK @abs-oluteM @SilverMoonTea based on your review, I will watch them tonight. Tagging @Chocolate and @peperomia
@mademoiselle Thanks for the tag! Despite what we went through last with Grid, I'll eventually get to Blood Free. I do like Ju Ji Hoon and will always give Lee Soo Yeon's projects a chance. (I'm currently watching Nothing Uncovered, Hide and finally started on Queen of Tears so I'll need to find some time for this one.)
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On 4/13/2024 at 1:06 AM, abs-oluteM said:
I am all caught up. Did you watch this week's yet @peperomia?
@abs-oluteM I’ve been watching but there’s lots of eye-rolling when the show focuses on the romance. I mean, I have nothing against it, but I think crime/detective plotlines fare better when any kind of romance at all is subtle or just hinted. But here, there’s cheating and crossing lines of cheating. I really did not like Jung Won and Tae Heon’s romantic moment in ep 9. I also did not like how Tae Heon’s decisions as a detective were swayed by his feelings for Jung Woon. I get that he trusts her, but I rather he follow police procedures when he received those “incriminating” photos but do all he can to prove she’s innocent to release her. Ep 10 was a little better. Since Jung Won’s presence at Cha Eun Sae’s murder scence has been resolved, I hope the worst (of stupidity) is over.
Not sure if you watched this week's episodes yet so I'll hold off from discussing major developments on the mystery front, but you were on track about your intuition on Yoon Young and Mo's daughter.
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On 4/3/2024 at 8:38 AM, abs-oluteM said:
I have to find a place to watch this . My usual site is gone and I am not keen on other sites with all the virus and stuff. For my region, I will have to renew my Viu subscription. Thinking if I should as I already have 4 ongoing subscriptions for streaming sites
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What are the key things that happened this week?
Bummer. Looks like I might be a lone watcher on this one. Lots happened but in summary…
Jung Won and Tae Heon went to Mueon city to investigate. Originally they went separately but ran into each other there.
Jung Won obtained a video copy of Cha Eun Sae’s consultation with the psychiatrist. Through this, she learned Woo Jae and the psychiatrist had a high school classmate, Lee Na Ri. So, Jung Won went to Mueon to visit their high school and the principal said Lee Na Ri died in the chemical plant fire. Based on Cha Eun Sae’s consultation, I think it’s possible Woo Jae might’ve killed Lee Na Ri back in high school. This would make sense why his father asked him if he killed Cha Eun Sae. If Woo Jae did kill Lee Na Ri, his father likely covered it up with the help of Moo Hyung Taek. Also, if this is Woo Jae’s secret, it would explain why he’s mentally unstable. A guilty conscience would do it. Somehow the psychiatrist might be involved in this too. It was revealed that she has something on him and he has something on her as well. She is definitely wacko.
Tae Heon went to Mueon to investigate the dead housekeeper’s husband who was the chemical plant manager. He met the husband’s sister and it was revealed that he died in the same year of the fire. Seems like like he was a scapegoat to take blame for the fire. I think Mo Hyung Taek might’ve helped Woo Jae’s father cover up the true cause of the fire.
We also learned why Tae Heon resented Jung Won. In a flashback, when his partner was dying, he told Tae Heon that Jung Won was only dating him to investigate a case. He likely believed it because Jung Won was there at this scene. In present time, he finds out that Jung Won only started investigating his partner after they already dated and realized he misunderstood her. Episode ended with Tae Heon wanting to know why Jung Won didn’t explain herself back then. To me, it seemed like he didn’t give her a chance to. He was already set in blaming her. I think the misunderstanding is getting cleared now so they could start trusting each other again and truly investigate together.
It’s unclear if Tae Heon’s partner was corrupted or not. Back then, Jung Won got a tip while she and Tae Heon were visiting her father at his columbarium. Then, she went off to investigate this. Another interesting thing is Woo Jae’s father secretary was a detective and Tae Heon’s former supervisor. He and Tae Heon seem close. We’ll see if the secretary and Tae Heon’s partner are also connected to the crimes.
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On 3/28/2024 at 12:07 AM, abs-oluteM said:
I just finished eps 5 @peperomia. And the drama has finally gotten my full attention because things aren't really what they seem. And you are right - this is not just a crime of passion. I know the drama is hinting that the psychiatrist is the other woman that SWJ is seeing, but I am not sure if this looks like a loving relationship or that she has something on him....
I'm glad you are still watching this. My impression is Woo Jae and the psychiatrist's relationship is not romantic. She appears to be manipulating and controlling him. I think you may be right that she has something on him. He's hiding something and I don't think it's just cheating.
The politician's daughter who is also the cafe owner seems odd too. I wonder why Woo Jae caused a scene at her shop and the real reason why she didn't report it.
On 3/28/2024 at 12:07 AM, abs-oluteM said:I agree with your chain of thought in your 2nd post. Zeus in particular seemed rather concerned if she would continue. Everything that is happening now is linked somehow to her father's investigation.
Yes, it was the fact that Zeus was concerned if Jung Won would continue her show made me think s/he could be the mastermind. I noticed the young male reporter on her team had a similar concern so I wonder if he could be connected to Zeus.
On 3/28/2024 at 12:07 AM, abs-oluteM said:At one point I was a tad annoyed that she would reveal so much in her counselling session to her psychiatrist. I don't know if I would tell so much information relating to a criminal case even if the psychiatrist is not supposed to reveal any private information. Very fortunate that Kim Tae Heon has given her the heads up about the coat or she would have still be in the dark. Now I look forward to her exposing the truth.
Unfortunately, Jung Won's character is not executed well. I know her actions are for the sake of the plot, but her lack of common sense does not make her look good to viewers as female lead and star reporter. We'll see if this mistake with the psychiatrist will knock some sense in her and she will be smarter going forward. Fingers crossed. I hope the investigative track gets more exciting when she works with Tae Heon.
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In episode 5 preview, I noticed that it’s connecting a handful of characters to the city of Mueon, except Jung Won. Circling back to the first episode, when the detectives were going through the dead housekeeper’s house, they found a scrapbook collection of news articles on the assemblyman, Mo Hyung Taek (who was previously a prosecutor) and a chemical plant fire that took place in 2009, which killed 12 and injured 2 people. The housekeeper’s husband also died in 2009.
Some thoughts came into mind…
- Did the housekeeper’s husband die in the the chemical plant fire?
- Woo Jae’s father is a businessman. Could the chemical plant have belonged to him?
- When Mo Hyung Taek was a prosecuter back then, could he have aided the chemical plant to not face criminal charges?
- Jung Won’s father was also a reporter. Was he murdered while trying to uncover some kind of truth about the chemical plant fire?
- Could a mastermind (maybe a survivor of the fire or descendant) be plotting some kind of revenge related to this? Maybe Zeus?
Just some guesses, but I think cheating and killing is just scratching the surface so far.
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13 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:
@peperomia did you watch eps 3 ? I thought this was very interesting episode especially now that they have disclosed that Seol Woo Jae indeed had the affair with dead actress , and possibly more than one woman too . But I still have my reservations about him killing her simply because there are too many people who would seem to want her dead. The father of the baby , who could be her sponsor and that politician , is also a likely candidate. I was hoping though that even if he had the affair , he wouldn't be such a first class jerk. Blaming your wife for the loneliness & infidelity is quite unforgivable. Anyway, I am still up for any sort of plot twist.
@abs-oluteM Episodes 3 and 4 were released at the same time in my region so I was able to watch them together last night. Woo Jae’s character is so twisty! Now there’s evidence that he cheated with Eun Sae. When you get to episode 4, it is suggested that he's cheating with one more woman. (Someone whom you were already suspicious of.) It looks like we can check off the “cheater” box for him. Call me crazy, but I have a strange inkling that there’s more to this and he could be up to or part of something bigger. So, let’s see if there'll be a plot twist! Even if he's a cheater, I agree that he may not be the murderer for the same reasons that you mentioned. Also, it’s interesting that Eun Sae predicted she would die. I think it’s key that Woo Jae isn’t the father of her baby.13 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:So far Detective Kim has been a pretty sharp cop though I was wondering if he was a tad emotional while interrogating SWJ . It feels like he may have unresolved feelings for Jung Won. Whether these are positive feelings ( affection) or negative ones ( since I think she may have indirectly caused the death of his partner) , can't tell. It will be interesting to see if he can be objective in his investigations now that she is going to be on the suspect list too.
Tae Heon is tough on the surface, but I think he’s coping with some emotional issues relating to his deceased partner and Jung Won. Based on one of their conversations, their fallout is related to Tae Heon’s deceased partner and a previous case. To me, his actions show that he still has unresolved romantic feelings for her, but there’s also resentment. Let’s see how he’ll stay within the professional lines because of this.
Too bad not all episodes are out because I am entertained so far and really want to know more. To my surprise, on top of the mystery, I am enjoying the tension between Jung Won/Woo Jae and Jung Won/Tae Heon. LOL.
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@abs-oluteM Misty is a hard one to follow-up to. Still early, but if we are to compare, development of the characters and their complicated relationships was great from the start in Misty. I especiallly liked the slow-burn development of husband in Misty. Here, husband is suspicious in the first 2 episodes so it's kind of no fun if he is the "villain". We'll see though. In general, I feel crime/mystery dramas aren't as good as they used to be, but I'll watch if there's enough content to keep me wondering about the outcome and of course, any plot twists!
Of the main leads, I only knew Jang Seung Jo going into it. First impressions of Kim Ha Neul is okay so far. Yeon Woo Jin is growing on me. Hopefully, we'll see chemistry when they need to work together. Right now, they seem to have a thorn in their heart from something in the past.
Aside from the leads, I really want to know who is Zeus and what is his agenda!
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@Chocolate Do give it a try for the suspense!
Finished ep 2. Female lead's straining marriage with husband and reuniting with ex-boyfriend detective are turning out to be interesting angles to the story. I want to know more of her past with the detective. His demeanor toward her is mixed. He's cold to her most of the times and why could be related to his deceased detective colleague who female lead knew too. But, whenever she's in danger, I can see that he still cares about her.
My thoughts about the husband shaping up to be a cheater/murderer...
SpoilerIt's so early in the story. All the things making him to be a cheater/murderer could turn out to be red herrings. My gut feeling is the supposed mistress' relationship is likely with the politician and the baby is his. I think he and the father in law could be in cahoots. Also, it's possible they killed female lead's father, who was also a reporter, because he was about to reveal something corrupt about them.
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Blood Free 지배종 [2024]
in Joseon Jives
Posted · Edited by peperomia
It seems to be that Stranger might’ve been just a one-hit wonder. LOL. I'm looking forward to Good or Bad Dong Jae. I can't tell who is the writer though, but Lee Joon Hyuk at the center...yes, please!
I know no one probably cares anymore, but I watched the finale late last night and was too tired to elaborate more on why I interpreted the ending as #5… First I really don’t think the ending was #1. I could be in denial, but it’s just too weird for them to transfer her mind/brain to Chae Woon. On San and her team cared greatly for Ja Yu so I’m confident that they were able to save her. On San was in a positive state of mind at the end so I think it meant that he knew Blood Free and Ja Yu succeeded in their goal of saving lives with their cultured organs. Everyone was curious about Ja Yu’s condition and whereabouts so her waking up in the last scene was significant because their success could be made public now. I’m going with this conclusion because it ties back to her commitment of volunteering to test the transplants on herself. It has to be Ja Yu alive in her original form to be proof that the cultured organs work. She just didn't foresee that they actually saved her life.
I liked the scene of Chae Woon putting a coat/wrap around Ja Yu because it was cold outside. They way that she looked at him afterwards.
