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I watched episode 14. Some developments were...

15 hours ago, mademoiselle said:

I'm shocked @SilverMoonTea is still here and updated whilst she struggles with Queen of Tears and Lovely Runner. What...?! Wae yo? Wae? LOL.

 

@peperomia I'm here in spirit and supporting you all to finish for my sake. HAHAHA!

LOL. I'm totally okay with you supporting us in spirit here! Not watching Lovely Runner, but I'm in the process of finishing up Queen of Tears. It took a few episodes for me to get into it, but OMG, I love the couple's story so much. That's all I will say here.

15 hours ago, SilverMoonTea said:

Haha I have some sort of attachment to YWJ maybe... and it's investigation. And I already too far by now lols...

I took a liking to YWJ too. Will definitely check out his next drama.

6 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:

@peperomia ep 13

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I am confused. Woo Jae didn't kill Nari for sure. But did he kill Cha Eun Sae? Now I am no longer sure. I believe that Det Kim's mentor is the one that killed JW's father, and so given the knife, I am guessing he killed Eun Sae too. But did he kill BaReum? 

 

@abs-oluteM I am confused myself. LOL.

I haven't seen ep 14 yet. Let's see where the writer wants to take the story next. LOL.

6 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:

TBH, this show is not like a must watch if you ask me @mademoiselle @SilverMoonTea. There are some twist and turns that caught me by surprise but would that be enough for me to recommend this wholeheartedly? Not really . I have very different reasons for sticking on plus I have come too far to give up now.

5 hours ago, SilverMoonTea said:

I just finished watching the latest episode and the writer had too much in her sleeves lols. I just recommending this to my real life friend, let her suffer with me. She said YWJ is stunning, so I just let it be 😅 Tbh, it's not too bad because somehow I'm still here and up to date 😂

@abs-oluteM I agree this show is not a much watch and would not necessarily recommend it. I just don't want to watch it alone. LOL. I started it for JSJ and the mystery. Like @SilverMoonTea, I don't think it's bad which is why I'm still here as well. Each week, I'm not certain if anyone will be present here. Honestly, I'm shocked you ladies are still here. I do think the remaining episodes are better. I like seeing the sinister side of JSJ as Woo Jae. He pulls it off well. I'm glad I got to know who is YWJ.

On 4/24/2024 at 5:43 PM, SilverMoonTea said:

@peperomia are you going to check this out? It's the only drama that excite me at the moment. 

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So behind with Nothing Uncovered lols. Actually I don't like the couple love story. It will be better if they're not an ex lover before. Maybe will check it this weekend lols.

 

@SilverMoonTea I do plan to watch this. I will not miss out Ju Ji Hoon. Just haven't had the chance to start yet, but I think I can this coming Sunday.

@abs-oluteM I watched episode 12.

@abs-oluteM I was shocked myself! I wasn't expecting the twists either. In some ways, the writer's tactics are kind of gimmicky, but I'll applaud her for the wow factor and her ability to blindside us. LOL.

18 hours ago, mademoiselle said:

@peperomia Hahaha! You're calling it train wreck. This is not promising. I swear, not another one with Jang Seung Jo in it! 😿 I supposed it shouldn't be even near as bad as Sisyphus. 😆

 

I intend to be back. I just feel like I need more episodes out, so that I can get to the end quicker. This, I don't mean FF. Also, I wanted to focus on my crack dramas since new episodes are out. By Friday and weekends, I'll be free to pick this back up again.

LOL. It would be a train wreck for me if the show continued on with the mentally unstable and crazy. However, Yoon Young is out of the picture now (explained in the spoiler below). So, the train might be back on track now!

Oh, which show of JSJ are you referring to? I might've skipped that one. Sisyphus was pretty bad, but I surprisingly finished it. I hardly drop thrillers/mysteries, but one that I could not finish was Mouse. That was bad for me.

Totally understandable. Whenever you do continue watching this, do let us know your thoughts.

19 hours ago, mademoiselle said:

Oh what, you guys already have confirmation Yoon Young is the killer?! 😓 It's only at episode 10! I fear this early revelation/confirmation won't help with the captivating the audiences.

I watched episode 11. If true, there is a major twist to this at the end.

I'll put the major developments from episode 11 in a spoiler below. @abs-oluteM I'm curious to know what you will think about some of this.

3 hours ago, SilverMoonTea said:

I'm actually also watching this haha... I haven't caught up last week episode though. The storyline a bit to muddled for me and the FL is just so unreliable that it's hard for me to root for her. I'm not sure if it's on purpose. You know sometimes in crime novel, the unreliable narrator of the story is actually the villain lols. 

Oh, you've been watching! Last week's episodes were kind of frustrating. I'm hoping the remaining episodes will be better with more secrets revealed and questions answered. I agree that the storyline isn't cohesive and it's unfortunate we can't connect with the female lead. Despite her, I thought the mystery started off decent, but then it got off track with the romance and over-the-top crazy characterization of Yoon Young, even Woo Jae sometimes. I'll finish this though because I want to know more about what happened in the past in Mueon, Lee Na Ri and Zeus. Also, I'm curious to know if Mo Hyung Taek and Woo Jae's father's had a hand in Jung Won's father's death.

If you continue watching, see you around here? LOL.

13 hours ago, mademoiselle said:

I am up to episode 6, and I'm going to take a break from watching this. Hahaha! 

You're just taking a pause, right? You'll be back on this train wreck with us? LOL. I've been amazed that @abs-oluteM is still watching with me. She's been saying it, but it's finally registering with me that the motivation is her two VIP oppas. LOL.

13 hours ago, mademoiselle said:

With the information discovered at Mueon and Yoo Yoon Yeong kept saying she wants Woo Jae dead, I'm now thinking she isn't the killer. I believe she and Woo Jae knew something about what happened to Mueon, but they had to keep quiet, and hence Yoon Yeong has certain resentment against Woo Jae. But really, it looks like Woo Jae's father and the Assemblyman might have a hand in what happened to Mueon (or a higher up political figure that everyone is covering up for).

I might be spoiling you... Only read if you want to know what was revealed about this so far:

13 hours ago, mademoiselle said:

I'm thinking whoever killed the last 2 ladies were trying to lure both Tae Heon and Jung Won to Lee Nari's murder and the Bongta fire. Could it be Zeus? Saw above post that mentioned he is Lee Nari's brother. Since the police wouldn't re-investigate, he decided to take matters into his own hands...?

This was my original theory but my spoiler above will answer otherwise at this point. Zeus gave Jung Won tips that lead her to the 2 ladies' crime scenes so I'm still waiting to see how he fits into this picture. My theory is also that he's Lee Na Ri's younger brother who is trying to seek justice for her. Seems like the police and media (Jung Won's boss) might've took part in the cover up. Zeus doesn't seem like a "bad" person though. Just seems to be on a mission to reveal the truth, likely through Jung Won.

13 hours ago, mademoiselle said:

It doesn't have enough content. It's also annoying to see Woo Jae begging Jung Won back repetitively. The broken marriage is his own doing, and there's no way this is going to mend any time soon when the wounds are still so raw.

I agree. I like JSJ and he's doing a great job as Woo Jae, but it's difficult to see his character being irrational like this. Jung Won will be asking for a divorce in the next episode. abs-oluteM and I are hoping he'll agree to it. 

13 hours ago, mademoiselle said:

Agree. Lee Ha Neul has never been a strong actress. I can't even feel her pain and emotions from the betrayal and hurt she's supposed to feel. Lee Yoo Young is a better actress, for sure. Too bad she's now being paired up with Moon Sang Min filming a romance drama. Noona-dongsaeng relationship plot is getting old, to be honest and they are 10 years apart. I just don't see this pairing well. She would have matched well with both Jang Seung Joo and Yeo Woo Jin with her age.

Yes. Her lack of expressions and emoting totally misses the marks! I kept thinking there'll be improvement but no!

I thought of Lee Yoo Young because I enjoyed her in The Lies Within. She did really well with the emotional and suspenseful scenes. I'll have to look up her upcoming project, but yeah, I'm not a fan of the big age gaps either. It's difficult to buy into the chemistry.

@mademoiselle What a pleasant surprise to see you here. Since you started it, you must stay on this ride with us. LOL. I enjoyed the show up to episode 6 but it got annoying after it. 16 episodes might be the problem. It leaves too much room for nonsense. You'll find out who Zeus is halfway. I am curious to see how he's linked to everything.

I like JSJ and YWJ here, but I am not sure KHN fits the female lead role. Don't know why but I keep thinking Lee Yoo Young would've been great here acting-wise, but she deserves a better role than this. Jung Won, as a female lead and reporter, lacks basic common sense.

Anyway, stay with us! 

13 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:

Completely agree with you. The romantic moment felt out of place for sure. Also  I was surprised he was so quickly reinstated - in some countries , you'd definitely be disciplined for doing what he did. 

I'm relieved that I was not the only one who felt the romance was out of place. Yes, it was unrealistic that Tae Heon was not disciplined at all for acting out of procedures. To be honest, I was disappointed in him for that, but oh well now. There's so much to look pass in this drama. LOL.

13 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:

I have a bit of sympathy for Mo's daughter. YYY used her affections to manipulate her to kill the housekeeper and Cha Eun Sae. And then her father threw her under the bus with the supposed expose of his family's dark secret to save his own skin and political career.

This was an interesting twist. I knew there was something odd about Mo's daughter, but I wouldn't have guessed that she killed under Yoon Young's manipulation. I wonder if there's more to their family secret or if that was really it.

13 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:

I believe the next part of the show would be focused on exposing the true story of that fire & his involvement or rather what he tried to hide. I suppose it will be linked back to how JW's father died and somehow WooJae's dad is involved too.

I agree. I think the rest of the show will shift the focus to the past in Mujin and will reveal the truth behind the fire. We'll find out all of Mo Hyung Taek's dirty deeds. Woo Jae's father too. Aside from them, I still think Woo Jae might have some skeletons in his closet as well and his father covered up. Otherwise, I don't understand what their cryptic talk about sins that need to be forgiven could be. There might be more to Lee Na Ri's death. We shall see...

13 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:

That said, if I thought that Jang Seung Jo was gonna play the psychopathic killer here, I was wrong. Compared to YYY, he's greatest sin was letting his own demons get the better of him. I know from the preview JW is going to ask for a divorce, and I hope he'll let her go. 

Woo Jae is not a psychopathic killer, but I do think he's emotionally unstable. I'm worried of how he'll take the divorce news. Hopefully, well. He should let her go for the sake of both of them.

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I hope the remaining episodes will get the mystery plotline back on track. Some things I still want to know...

1. Jung Won's father - We can take a good guess of who might've killed him, but why exactly?

2. Who is the father of Cha Eun Sae's baby? My early guess was the Mo Hyung Taek.

3. Zeus is Jung Won's hoobae, Lee Da Reun. In the preview, it showed a photo of Lee Na Ri with a young boy. Could Zeus be her younger brother who is seeking justice for her?

4. Why did Tae Heon's partner say bad things about Jung Won as he was dying? What could be the misunderstanding? Who killed him?

5. Why did Tae Heon's former supervisor quit as a detective and became Woo Jae's father's secretary?

On 4/11/2024 at 12:49 AM, mademoiselle said:

Oh. Did not realise it is written by Lim Soo Yeon, who wrote Stranger! But she wrote Grid, too, and that one left us hanging.

 

You know, maybe the romance will be hinted and bare minimum because neither Stranger nor Grid have romance blossoming. OK @abs-oluteM @SilverMoonTea based on your review, I will watch them tonight. Tagging @Chocolate and @peperomia

@mademoiselle Thanks for the tag! Despite what we went through last with Grid, I'll eventually get to Blood Free. I do like Ju Ji Hoon and will always give Lee Soo Yeon's projects a chance. (I'm currently watching Nothing Uncovered, Hide and finally started on Queen of Tears so I'll need to find some time for this one.)

On 4/13/2024 at 1:06 AM, abs-oluteM said:

I am all caught up. Did you watch this week's yet @peperomia?

@abs-oluteM I’ve been watching but there’s lots of eye-rolling when the show focuses on the romance. I mean, I have nothing against it, but I think crime/detective plotlines fare better when any kind of romance at all is subtle or just hinted. But here, there’s cheating and crossing lines of cheating. I really did not like Jung Won and Tae Heon’s romantic moment in ep 9. I also did not like how Tae Heon’s decisions as a detective were swayed by his feelings for Jung Woon. I get that he trusts her, but I rather he follow police procedures when he received those “incriminating” photos but do all he can to prove she’s innocent to release her. Ep 10 was a little better. Since Jung Won’s presence at Cha Eun Sae’s murder scence has been resolved, I hope the worst (of stupidity) is over.

Not sure if you watched this week's episodes yet so I'll hold off from discussing major developments on the mystery front, but you were on track about your intuition on Yoon Young and Mo's daughter.

On 4/3/2024 at 8:38 AM, abs-oluteM said:

I have to find a place to watch this . My usual site is gone and I am not keen on other sites with all the virus and stuff. For my region, I will have to renew my Viu subscription. Thinking if I should as I already have 4 ongoing subscriptions for streaming sites .

What are the key things that happened this week?

Bummer. Looks like I might be a lone watcher on this one. Lots happened but in summary…

Jung Won and Tae Heon went to Mueon city to investigate. Originally they went separately but ran into each other there.

Jung Won obtained a video copy of Cha Eun Sae’s consultation with the psychiatrist. Through this, she learned Woo Jae and the psychiatrist had a high school classmate, Lee Na Ri. So, Jung Won went to Mueon to visit their high school and the principal said Lee Na Ri died in the chemical plant fire. Based on Cha Eun Sae’s consultation, I think it’s possible Woo Jae might’ve killed Lee Na Ri back in high school. This would make sense why his father asked him if he killed Cha Eun Sae. If Woo Jae did kill Lee Na Ri, his father likely covered it up with the help of Moo Hyung Taek. Also, if this is Woo Jae’s secret, it would explain why he’s mentally unstable. A guilty conscience would do it. Somehow the psychiatrist might be involved in this too. It was revealed that she has something on him and he has something on her as well. She is definitely wacko.

Tae Heon went to Mueon to investigate the dead housekeeper’s husband who was the chemical plant manager. He met the husband’s sister and it was revealed that he died in the same year of the fire. Seems like like he was a scapegoat to take blame for the fire. I think Mo Hyung Taek might’ve helped Woo Jae’s father cover up the true cause of the fire.

We also learned why Tae Heon resented Jung Won. In a flashback, when his partner was dying, he told Tae Heon that Jung Won was only dating him to investigate a case. He likely believed it because Jung Won was there at this scene. In present time, he finds out that Jung Won only started investigating his partner after they already dated and realized he misunderstood her. Episode ended with Tae Heon wanting to know why Jung Won didn’t explain herself back then. To me, it seemed like he didn’t give her a chance to. He was already set in blaming her. I think the misunderstanding is getting cleared now so they could start trusting each other again and truly investigate together.

It’s unclear if Tae Heon’s partner was corrupted or not. Back then, Jung Won got a tip while she and Tae Heon were visiting her father at his columbarium. Then, she went off to investigate this. Another interesting thing is Woo Jae’s father secretary was a detective and Tae Heon’s former supervisor. He and Tae Heon seem close. We’ll see if the secretary and Tae Heon’s partner are also connected to the crimes.

On 3/28/2024 at 12:07 AM, abs-oluteM said:

I just finished eps 5 @peperomia. And the drama has finally gotten my full attention because things aren't really what they seem. And you are right - this is not just a crime of passion. I know the drama is hinting that the psychiatrist is the other woman that SWJ is seeing,  but I am not sure if this looks like a loving relationship or that she has something on him....

I'm glad you are still watching this. My impression is Woo Jae and the psychiatrist's relationship is not romantic. She appears to be manipulating and controlling him. I think you may be right that she has something on him. He's hiding something and I don't think it's just cheating.

The politician's daughter who is also the cafe owner seems odd too. I wonder why Woo Jae caused a scene at her shop and the real reason why she didn't report it.

On 3/28/2024 at 12:07 AM, abs-oluteM said:

I agree with your chain of thought in your 2nd post. Zeus in particular seemed rather concerned if she would continue. Everything that is happening now is linked somehow to her father's investigation. 

Yes, it was the fact that Zeus was concerned if Jung Won would continue her show made me think s/he could be the mastermind. I noticed the young male reporter on her team had a similar concern so I wonder if he could be connected to Zeus.

On 3/28/2024 at 12:07 AM, abs-oluteM said:

At one point I was a tad annoyed that she would reveal so much in her counselling session to her psychiatrist. I don't know if I would tell so much information relating to a criminal case even if the psychiatrist is not supposed to reveal any private information.  Very fortunate that Kim Tae Heon has given her the heads up about the coat or she would have still be in the dark. Now I look forward to her exposing the truth.

Unfortunately, Jung Won's character is not executed well. I know her actions are for the sake of the plot, but her lack of common sense does not make her look good to viewers as female lead and star reporter. We'll see if this mistake with the psychiatrist will knock some sense in her and she will be smarter going forward. Fingers crossed. I hope the investigative track gets more exciting when she works with Tae Heon.

In episode 5 preview, I noticed that it’s connecting a handful of characters to the city of Mueon, except Jung Won. Circling back to the first episode, when the detectives were going through the dead housekeeper’s house, they found a scrapbook collection of news articles on the assemblyman, Mo Hyung Taek (who was previously a prosecutor) and a chemical plant fire that took place in 2009, which killed 12 and injured 2 people. The housekeeper’s husband also died in 2009.

Some thoughts came into mind…

• Did the housekeeper’s husband die in the the chemical plant fire?
• Woo Jae’s father is a businessman. Could the chemical plant have belonged to him?
• When Mo Hyung Taek was a prosecuter back then, could he have aided the chemical plant to not face criminal charges?
• Jung Won’s father was also a reporter. Was he murdered while trying to uncover some kind of truth about the chemical plant fire?
• Could a mastermind (maybe a survivor of the fire or descendant) be plotting some kind of revenge related to this? Maybe Zeus?

Just some guesses, but I think cheating and killing is just scratching the surface so far.

13 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:

@peperomia did you watch eps 3 ? I thought this was very interesting episode especially now that they have disclosed that Seol Woo Jae indeed had the  affair with dead actress , and possibly more than one woman too . But I still have my reservations about him killing her simply because there are too many people who would seem to want her dead. The father of the baby , who could be her sponsor and that politician , is also a likely candidate. I was hoping though that even if he had the affair , he wouldn't be such a first class jerk. Blaming your wife for the loneliness & infidelity is quite unforgivable. Anyway, I am still up for any sort of plot twist.

@abs-oluteM Episodes 3 and 4 were released at the same time in my region so I was able to watch them together last night. Woo Jae’s character is so twisty! Now there’s evidence that he cheated with Eun Sae. When you get to episode 4, it is suggested that he's cheating with one more woman. (Someone whom you were already suspicious of.) It looks like we can check off the “cheater” box for him. Call me crazy, but I have a strange inkling that there’s more to this and he could be up to or part of something bigger. So, let’s see if there'll be a plot twist! Even if he's a cheater, I agree that he may not be the murderer for the same reasons that you mentioned. Also, it’s interesting that Eun Sae predicted she would die. I think it’s key that Woo Jae isn’t the father of her baby.

13 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:

So far Detective Kim has been a pretty sharp cop though I was wondering if he was a tad emotional while interrogating SWJ . It feels like  he may have unresolved feelings for Jung Won. Whether these are positive feelings ( affection) or negative ones ( since I think she may have indirectly caused the death of his partner) , can't tell. It will be interesting to see if he can be objective in his investigations now that she is going to be on the suspect list too.

Tae Heon is tough on the surface, but I think he’s coping with some emotional issues relating to his deceased partner and Jung Won. Based on one of their conversations, their fallout is related to Tae Heon’s deceased partner and a previous case. To me, his actions show that he still has unresolved romantic feelings for her, but there’s also resentment. Let’s see how he’ll stay within the professional lines because of this.

Too bad not all episodes are out because I am entertained so far and really want to know more. To my surprise, on top of the mystery, I am enjoying the tension between Jung Won/Woo Jae and Jung Won/Tae Heon. LOL.

@abs-oluteM Misty is a hard one to follow-up to. Still early, but if we are to compare, development of the characters and their complicated relationships was great from the start in Misty. I especiallly liked the slow-burn development of husband in Misty. Here, husband is suspicious in the first 2 episodes so it's kind of no fun if he is the "villain". We'll see though. In general, I feel crime/mystery dramas aren't as good as they used to be, but I'll watch if there's enough content to keep me wondering about the outcome and of course, any plot twists!

Of the main leads, I only knew Jang Seung Jo going into it. First impressions of Kim Ha Neul is okay so far. Yeon Woo Jin is growing on me. Hopefully, we'll see chemistry when they need to work together. Right now, they seem to have a thorn in their heart from something in the past.

Aside from the leads, I really want to know who is Zeus and what is his agenda! 

@Chocolate Do give it a try for the suspense!

Finished ep 2. Female lead's straining marriage with husband and reuniting with ex-boyfriend detective are turning out to be interesting angles to the story. I want to know more of her past with the detective. His demeanor toward her is mixed. He's cold to her most of the times and why could be related to his deceased detective colleague who female lead knew too. But, whenever she's in danger, I can see that he still cares about her.

My thoughts about the husband shaping up to be a cheater/murderer...

@abs-oluteM I agree female lead is not so smart to be going to strange places alone at night and touching obvious dead bodies. Other than that, I've watched up to half of ep 2 and like it for the suspense. In addition to the husband, there's a handful of questionable people like the politician, father in law and mysterious informant. It's interesting to me how they'll connect in unfolding the mystery. 

With my experience from Misty and Trolley, I wouldn't be surprised if the husband is a cheater and murderer. Of course though, I always have this tiny bit of hope for a twist to a twist that he's not. Only because the father in law didn't approve their marriage and seems to want them to separate. So, I wonder if he has a hand in the murders and wanting to sabotage female lead. Also, could he have something to do with the female lead's father's death?

JSJ is partly why I'm watching this. His profession as a mystery writer makes his character more interesting to the whole story. But, I'm also a sucker for a cop/detective so I'm liking YWJ's character as well. I understand he's the female lead's ex-boyfriend so it'll also be interesting to see them work together.

16 episodes are a lot to fill so let's see how this show holds up.

8 hours ago, mademoiselle said:

@peperomia I am recommending Queen of Tears, too! Come join us there!

 

What's JSJ? An actor's initial?

 

Yeah, I will miss Park Hyung Sik again. His last (sageuk) drama was quite lacklustre. I really like Happiness, though. Hopefully he does another good one.

 

I've watched a fair few of dramas where Yoon Park is playing unlikeable characters, so I'm happy that this time he's finally a nice person.

Since you recommend too, I will watch Queen of Tears. I think my mom might be watching this already. She likes Kim Soo Hyun. LOL. I last saw him in Moon Embracing the Sun so a long time ago. I do like Kim Ji Won and Park Sung Hoon.

Sorry, I meant JSJ for actor, Jang Seung Jo. Looks like I need to upgrade to Viki Plus to watch Nothing Uncovered.

Same. I hope Park Hyung Sik's next project will be a another good one and for Yoon Park to have more likable roles. I think we were spoiled by Jeong Woo and Dae Young so we'll see!

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Looks like more wedding photos were released  

13 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:

What will you be watching next @peperomia? Check out Queen of Tears if you have time.

Likely Nothing Uncovered for the mystery and JSJ. Since you recommend Queen of Tears though, I will try to find time to watch this too.

18 hours ago, mademoiselle said:

Must say I prefer Hyung Sik's hair in straight. Curly was cute/handsome too but straight seems to be even more handsome!

I thought the same! He looks especially handsome with straight hair. I'm going to miss him/Jeong Woo so much.

2 hours ago, JenL said:

As much as I love the super extra and pretty Jeong woo version of Park Hyung Sik, I also really like the daggy dad version of Yoon Park.

Totally agree with you. Both guys are lovable in their own unique/special ways. I'm happy the drama made them at par with each other in this sense. It took some time for Yoon Park to eventually get his deserved screen time, but it was worth the wait. Writer did a great job with his character as a quirky NeoTuber, single parent struggling to understand his teenage daughter, petty best friend and romantic partner. LOL. I loved that in the end, he was happy knowing Hong Ran liked him exactly as he is. I thought it was good closure for him.

I think I got everything that I wanted in the finale.

Proposal.

Jeong Woo finding family with Ha Neul’s. So sweet where she told him that she wanted him to join her family. It was just as precious as his proposal.

A new and healthier Ha Neul. Unlike her old self, I love that she is telling herself to express how she feels inside going forward. Although it might not change anything, it allows her to get upset for a moment and move past it. She has her peace.

Jeong Woo officially overcoming his PTSD and re-opening his clinic. How great of him to invite Dr. Kang, someone he trusts, to work with him again.

Dae Young and Hong Ran’s “family” photo with their kiddos. Dae Young is happy Hong Ran likes him just the way he is. Exactly how we see him on his NeoTube channel. LOL. For Hong Ran, this warmhearted man will have a happy life with someone just like him.

No wedding but we got wedding photos, which were gorgeous!

Lovely story. I think the epilogue summed the plot the best. To show that we could be happy today and suddenly sad tomorrow, but it’s okay… If there’s sadness, there will always be happiness as well. The characters figured this out and found the strength to endure sadness and misfortune. And, that was enough. I’m happy Jeong and Ha Neul finally caught their sunrise that they originally missed in the beginning. Very poetic.

I will miss this show immensely.

10 hours ago, mademoiselle said:

I actually thought he chose not to see them because he was disappointed with them (they knew Kyung Min's situation), and is not yet ready to face them.

Yes, I agree. It was the final straw to realizing how terrible his mother was. He was disappointed, but it also seemed like he actually drew a line between him and his parents, which was why he basically rejected to see them.

3 hours ago, gilaswan said:

@peperomia I don’t think I felt sorry for Kyungmin in that I don’t think his actions, whatever motivated them, could ever be justified for all the reasons you pointed out. I do wonder if the accident never happened and he was never at death’s bed, if he would’ve eventually come clean with Jeongwoo. Nevertheless I did feel sorry for him that he became a victim of his own low self-esteem. That was regrettable because clearly he was academically gifted and could’ve achieved much just on the straight and narrow

Kyung Min did have great potential so I agree it's unfortunate that he was essentially his own worst enemy and took a wrong path in his life. Based on the flashbacks, it seemed Kyung Min wanted to be in Jeong Woo’s parents good favor as their high positions could benefit his career. I thought this was why he succumbed to Jeong Woo’s mother’s pressure to not meet his father and why did he not tell Jeong Woo about his father’s death. So, as much as I would like to think his sincerity to Jeong Woo was genuine, I don't think he would've been completely honest with him as propelling his career was more important. Regardless, I do think Kyung Min’s character ended up being good storytelling in showing us that not everything is black and white, which is why viewers feel both hate and pity for him.

3 hours ago, gilaswan said:

I didn’t catch that one bit - when he found out it was JW’s clinic he tried to prevent the accident from happening? And the nurse that JW visited in the prisons - was that an abetting staff?

In a way, one can stretch and say that he did try to prevent the medical accident by sending a note to the nurse who was involved in the plan to administer a lower dosage of anticoagulants (heparin) and maybe it would not have caused excessive bleeding. The thing is, based on the trial, heparin wasn't supposed to be used during the surgery at all. It was planted at his clinic.

3 hours ago, gilaswan said:

Jeongwoo is such a resilient character, really. Life hasn’t been very kind to him but he’s always responded with such cheer. His parents don’t deserve him. So glad he met Haneul and family. I’m hoping the series ends with a wedding and our single parents finding their joy. Have yet to see how Dr Bin’s daughter will take to Hongran. Why did he get a divorce? I don’t remember it ever being said though it did happen while he was a resident, was it?

I love Jeong Woo - he's such an admirable guy. PHS did an excellent job bringing him to life. I really hope that we do get a proposal and wedding too.

My preference would be to see Hong Ran and Dae Young's daughter meet each other before the parents get together, but however it will happen, I am looking forward to it. His confession was adorably sweet so I am curious how they'll make it official. I can't remember the details of Dae Young's divorce, but I believe it had to do with his high maintenance/wealthy in-laws and it did happen during the time of his residency.

@mademoiselle @abs-oluteM About Kyung Min, you ladies are kinder than me. I did feel moments of sympathy for him during the flashbacks, but I can't bring myself to truly feel sorry for him overall. Jeong Woo's mom was terrible, but if Kyung Min's core/essence was any good, he would not have spiked Jeong Woo's drink, steal Ha Neul's dissertation and set-up the medical accident. If he had any regard for Jeong Woo, he would've backed off when he found out the target was Jeong Woo's clinic, but he didn't and ruined careers with no remorse. He only apologized to Jeong Woo when everything was revealed. So, any sorrow that I did feel momentarily for Kyung Min didn't last and dissipated quickly. 

I don't think Jeong Woo was at any fault for what happened to Kyung Min. I believe Kyung Min acknowledged this too. It was Jeong Woo's mom fault for not letting Jeong Woo know about the father's death. However, if he knew, would their friendship turned out differently?

I didn't realize Jeong Woo's parents left Seoul already. I guess his decision to not take the opportunity to see them was his way of acknowledging that he will no longer be affected by them and doesn't need them. He is in control of his own life.

I'm already sad this weekend is the finale. It has brought me some joy the past 2 months. I'll miss it and don't know what else can fill it.

@abs-oluteM Her family is chaotic! Did you watch episode 14? Do you think we will get a proposal? I hope the end scene and preview isn’t just teasing us. Would it be asking too much for a wedding as well? LOL.

10 hours ago, abs-oluteM said:

About to watch eps 14 but the one thing that Hanuel said to JW in eps 13 which really resonated with me was that it was okay for him not to forgive KyungMin ...at least not at that point. She mentioned that he needed to process his emotions and not suppress his feelings. I cannot agree more. JW has always taken everything in his stride and and didn't let things faze him but I feel that is just a mask for how he feels. Glad we had a very JW centric episode.

This is true and I agree. If you choose forgive, forgive on your own will and timing. One of my favorite scenes from today was Jeong Woo’s talk with Ha Neul’s mother. He continues to have a tough time processing his emotions about Kyung Min’s death. He still holds good memories of their past but also a lot of hurt from the present. I liked how Ha Neul’s mother comforted him and provided some advice. If Jeong Woo chooses to forgive, do it for no one else but himself because hate and resentment is exhausting. In my opinion, it is poison in one’s heart. For example, Kyung Min had a close bond with Jeong Woo, but the hate that grew inside him ruined all that was good. Anyway, I think the writing does an excellent job expressing the leads’ thoughts and feelings through the dialogue. Here, Jeong Woo’s conflicted emotions about Kyung Min were done well. I liked it that it was the mom who consoled him this time and during a family trip setting. Mom is a sweetheart. One definitely scores to have her as a mother-in-law.

So, Jeong Woo’s parents happen to come back to Seoul exactly when he was proven innocent. Such great timing, right? I hope we do get to see them meet up. I am not expecting any kind of warm family reunion, but it seems Jeong Woo is beginning to accept that his parents (especially his mother) aren’t the supporting/stick by your kid type. The opposite of Ha Neul’s family. I just want him to officially recognize this and move on to build his own loving family.

Last but not least, Dae Young and Hong Ran continue to be so cute, but let’s get together already. I found it funny when it was about time for Dae Young to leave Hong Ran’s place, but she suddenly tells him she has lots of tea bags so he should stay for some tea. Then, Dae Young says in that case, he should help her out with the tea bags. OMG LOL. Okay, so I do really want them to get together, but a part of me also wants Hong Ran to meet Dae Young’s daughter first. Seems like they will make it official soon so let’s see!

From here on, I think the remaining episodes will focus on the leads’ rebuilding their careers and forming their lives together. I would love a conflict-free finale weekend!

Here's my favorite funny scene from today's episode. You know, the usual petty Jeong Woo