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Watching the clips of Suga's final D-Day Encore concerts, and wishing so hard that I could have been there. Oh well. I wonder where V was? V's parents attended the first day of the concert, but didn't see V anywhere? There were a couple of "sightings", but they were mistaking Taeyang for V. Otherwise, it was fantastic to see j-hope and Jin show up for the final day, especially with RM on stage with Suga, and the Hyung Line were all together again! And, then the inevitable. Suga is going for his enlistment service. I know that there was a lot of talk about whether Suga would be a public service worker instead of active military, but I think we'll have to wait word of that once he reports to his basic training camp. Can't wait until 2025! Borahae!

@mademoiselle, I don't remember season 1 being as scary as season 2. I totally know what you mean about Gollum, even though I didn't think of it until you mentioned it! I feel as if I'm lacking appreciation of Sam Shik on this thread?

JH already had a crazy lover in Secretary Jang, the same one who keeps wanting to break up YD and TK, thinking that she could still become TK's wife somehow. Another crazy ex would be even m ore nuts! Speaking of SJ, how mean and delusional is she? It was good that she finally got that neither TK's grandmother or his mother thought of her as a suitable DIL at all. The whole family including the prospective groom are against her being a suitable partner, so she is the only one who still thinks she has a shot. Heck, she didn't have a shot when the grandmother and the mother were supporting her since the groom didn't want her, but she still persists. I actually dislike how stupid they've made her for the sake of having her be a villain in this story.

I'm still hoping that YD's mother is "Strawberry".

I just read another supposed plot twist which has Ha Neul actually being TK's bio daughter after all. However, I would be upset if that were the case. I feel that what the drama is trying to do to de-stigmatize single motherhood will be a total farce if they tie up the story line with HN being TK's bio daughter after all. Not to mention, I don't see how the time line would actually work. Wrt the rumor, supposedly, YD doesn't realize that she had miscarried JH's baby, and that when she and TK had gone camping, she had actually gotten pregnant with TK's baby. Honestly, this seems to me to be the wishful thinking of some k-netizens who want a 'clean' ending without the complication of JH being permanently in their lives, but that seems as if it would be a more realistic way to end it, with TK, YD, and HM being a family, and with JH giving up his parental rights, but having a relationship with his daughter as well. Anyway, just my thoughts. I'm not sure if anyone else on this site is watching this drama other than me?

It feels as if the bromance(s) in some dramas are better written and more engaging than the romance(s) in those dramas. Of course, there are some dramas that are all about bromance. The dramas that specifically come to mind are 'Prison Playbook' and 'Hospital Playbook'. PP was purely about bromance, while HP had some romance in it along with various ships, but honestly, the drama was fine as it detailed the long-term friendships of its main cast members. Prison Playbook Hospital Playbook Then there are dramas which mix romance and bromance. Some dramas that come to mind are 'My Country' and 'Tale of the Nine Tailed'. In both of these dramas, it could be argued that the bromances far outshone the romances. In the case of TotNT, Season 2 basically dropped the romance in favor of exploring the relationship between the fox brothers in more depth. What do you think? What are some of your favorite bromance dramas?

I appreciate the moments of warmth amongst our team members, but for some reason, I'm finding this season to be a lot creepier than Season 1. I keep wondering what would happen if the villains somehow managed to get hold of So Mun's power to call forth the Yung... i have to think that the firefighter will somehow come around to the good guys side, though not sure how.

Ooh, I guess I'm looking forward to the next tranche of episodes then. Also, it seems as if they are going to match up Joo Hyuk and Ye Joo?

Just recently started watching this so missed all the earlier episodes, but not really motivated to go back and watch. Just wanted to say that I've watched episode 86, and the leads are still not together. LOL This is definitely a slow burn drama, though with plenty of plot twist elements.

The Love Triangle is a common plot device, definitely in rom-coms, but also in other genres. I'm honestly not sure whether I like them or not. More often than not, I feel sorry for the 2nd lead who tries so hard and yet doesn't get much of a second look from the person that they desire. I don't really get SLS (second lead syndrome) really, but I do feel badly for the person who is left out These are some memorable love triangles for me. 'Love in the Moonlight' starring Park Bo Gum as Lee Yeong, Kim Yoo Jung as Hong Ra On, and Jin Young as Kim Yoon Sung. Lee Yeong is the young Joseon prince who learns to love the smart, pretty and feisty commoner Hong Ra On. However, the nobleman Kim Yoon Sung is the one who recognizes how special Hong Ra On is first, not to mention seeing through her disguise as a court eunuch. KYS tries so hard to be supportive for HRO, but the inevitable OTP means that KYS will never get the girl. There is a grim consolation prize in that he gets to die in HRO's arms, but in the rushed ending, it didn't feel as if his companions kept him in their hearts much. 'LITM' also had the dubious honor of having another love triangle develop with LY at the center when his intended bride Jo Ha Yeon (played by Chae Soo Bin) shows up as a contender for LY's affections versus HRO. I actually felt bad for JHY because she just didn't even have a chance or a clue. 'Naeil's Cantabile' starring Joo Won as Cha Yoo Jin, Shim Eun Kyung as Seol Nae Il, and Park Bo Gum as Lee Yoon Hoo. Cha Yoo Jin and Seol Nae Il plays the opposites attract in this drama about musicians at a performing arts school, while Lee Yoon Hoo plays a genius violinist who also falls for Nae Il and wants to help her. This drama was actually pretty middling, but it remains in my mind as the one where I did develop SLS for Lee Yoon Hoo. 'Answer Me 1994' was 1 of the Answer Me series of dramas which all played with the question of who is the OTP. However, 'AM1994' was memorable in that it did the best job of misleading who the OTP was going to be. The love triangle consisted of Sseureki (played by Jung Woo, Sung Na Jung (played by Go Ara), and Chilbong (played by Yoo Yeon Seok). I think it was perhaps because the first kiss was between SNJ and Chilbong and because he played such a classical male lead that it felt as if they could be an OTP. However, the other signals that were coming through between the older brother type Sseureki (I mean seriously, he was nicknamed "Trash") and NJ won out, and poor Chilbong had to settle for being a major league baseballer in America. Oh well. So, what are some of your memorable love triangles? And, do you even like them or loathe them or don't really care any which way? Let us know!

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY TO US! August 22, 2023! JangHaven has been around now for 3 years! We started JangHaven as a place where people could discuss kdramas, cdramas, twdramas, jdoramas, et al to our hearts' content in a non-confrontational and non-judgemental way. We hope that we've succeeded at least somewhat. Before we move on to our anniversary celebrations, we'd like to take a moment to remember Bairama, Not only was she a member of our staff who made plenty of contributions to this site, she was a dear friend and sister to many of us. She was active on JangHaven and on JangHaven Discord, not to mention twitter, youtube, and instagram. She was a bright and creative soul, who gave so much of herself to her family and friends. Bai's passing affected us greatly, and we will always cherish our interactions with her and remember her fondly. Below are links to her profile here on JH and a thread that was created in September of last year when we lost her. Bairama's Profile Goodbye to Bai ********************************* In celebration of our 3rd Anniversary, we have prepared a few events. There are 2 new discussion threads: The first is about Love Triangles, of course, which we feel is fitting with this being our 3rd Anniversary. The second is about when dramas have better Bromance than Romance. We hope you will visit the threads and share your opinion! There is a new quiz. Test your drama knowledge! Drama Quiz There is a group project to write a mini-drama. Get your inner creative juices to help us write the plot! Group Story We hope you'll have fun taking part in these events. Thank you all for being part of our community, and for showing us much love and support.

I think that's true for all of the longer count dramas, e.g. weekenders and dailies. They inevitably add makjang elements to provide more plot points and keep viewers interested. SBS tried to do a weekend drama called 'Glorious Day' without any makjang elements, and its episode count got cut to 44 episodes and had to wrap up early because its ratings were so disappointing. I've really been pleasantly surprised at the grandmother's evolution.

Preview for ep 39 with translation underneath. TK to his mother: We should just live our lives separately. TK Mother to YD: I’m going to make sure that you and Tae Kyung can’t be together. Grandmother at table: How can I be comfortable when I have to be careful around the daughter-in-law all the time? Note: Don’t look for me. I’ll be gone for a few days. SJeong: Where could she have gone? TK: Grandmother, what are you doing? SG Father: It was definitely this face. (it looks as if SG's birth mother is making an appearance. SG: Dad! SJeong: Oh, a baby room? HW: Could we just take a look, for some inspiration? (meaning ideas on how to do his own baby room) YD: Well, that is… Grandmother: Aigoo, my heart. Aigoo. That's so funny that the grandmother goes to TK and YD's place. I know that there is more angst to come still, but I really hope that TK and YD will have more backers rather than people who want to tear them apart for whatever reason.

JK was finally invited to Suchwita, and it was hilarious mayhem. One of the highlights was JK and Suga doing the duet of 'That That'. Killer! JK was having so much fun, he wasn't ready to leave, even after Suga had gone. So, he gave the staff a mini-concert singing along to a karaoke machine. Pure joy! This boy likes to sing! Thanks to the staff for giving us this extra clip of JK singing! Also, not sure how long this fancam footage will be around, but JK just won on Inkigayo with his song. This is the clip of JK being so surprised to win, and then an epic encore. So much fun! How could anyone not fall madly in love with JK?

I was seeing some speculation online as to whether Yeon Doo's mother is actually Tae Kyung's grandmother's long lost daughter, the one she called "Strawberry". That actually makes sense to me that she is, and may provide another plot twist in the future episodes. Btw, the word for strawberry 딸기 pronounced "ddal-gi" shares the same first syllable as daughter 딸 pronounced "ddal". the grandmother kept asking for strawberries because she was really missing her daughter. It seems that her mother-in-law gave away her daughter so that the family could focus on the son. The grandmother looked for her daughter, but eventually gave up. Since it was her MIL who gave her daughter away, the grandmother probably couldn't even speak about her daughter, and so took to talking about strawberries. I thought that was so sad. The grandmother, as mean and vicious as she was at the beginning of this drama, is turning into a bit of a rock star in terms of acknowledging her own regrets over how she had treated TK and his mother when they entered the family, and wanting YD and TK to have a chance of their own. I'm hoping that YD and TK will be able to stand firm against all comers this time rather than being torn apart, though it seems that the idea of being apart is going to raise its head again, at least from the previews.

I think Wi Gen got lucky in finding So Mun. Also, there was something about So Mun calling out to Wi Gen to him (even though he didn't realize that he was doing that), rather than Wi Gen selecting SM as being an appropriate Counter. With the other Counter pairs, when something happens to the mortal counterparts, the Yung counterparts are also endangered or die, unless they are able to transfer quickly to a new pairing. NOOOOOOOO! I really hope he doesn't need to be sacrificed. Perhaps it's just a hallmark of evil that they hate kids? I mean, most kids are open and innocent, the antithesis of evil. Other than demon seed kids, of course. :) I was shocked by KKY's transformation into the villain. I totally buy him as the villain. My Chinese is non-existent, so no comments on that one, but that's too bad that his Mandarin was so mangled. So, I guess it's good that I can't understand his terrible Mandarin which may interfere with my appreciation of him as the Big Bad? I like this version of So Mun as well. While Season 1 So Mun was more innocent, eager, and sweet, Season 2 So Mun has clearly been through a lot. He's gained some positives but still has a lot to learn even if his being the most powerful Counter has made him cocky. I think SM learning more will be a part of this Season's arc rather than just having SM be all powerful and all that. I mean, if one is the most powerful superbeing blessed by the heavens even, how do you make it challenging for him other than by exploring his humanity, with all of its flaws and beauty? I wondered if SM being late all the time was a bit of a nod to the controversy surrounding the actor after Season 1, and the subsequent questions of whether he'll be a part of Season 2 or not. Glad to see him anyway. Yes, what @40somethingahjumma said! Anyway, I'm not sure that I'm as emotionally invested in Season 2, but then again, it's still in the early episodes. Plus, I'm really not watching much else other than "The Real Has Come", and that one is because I'm watching it with my mum.

Makes me want to rewatch 'Man to Man'.

@wink_, thank you for posting to this shrine, and I'm sorry you won't be updating it any more.

No such thing. I remember watching 'Naeil's Cantabile' and really liking it. However, I developed second lead syndrome for Park Bo Gum's character in that drama... The loss of loved ones stay with you for a long, long time. I hope that each day finds you being at least a tiny bit better, and that you are able to find some solace and comfort within yourself and those around you.

JK's new single "Seven" dropped, and it's an earworm, not to mention that it has both clean and explicit versions. They dropped 2 vids for it already. Here is the official MV (clean version): And here is JK's performance video (explicit version):

I miss the guys. This clip of them singing a new song that they prepared for their 10th Anniversary Festa just makes me miss them even more.

Yes, I think most of us agree with you on that one! That's totally right! All these other souls came back from the dead, so there is still hope for Rang. Especially if there is to be a season 3. I'll say it again, I don't think I'll watch it if both Yeon and Rang aren't in it.