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  1. stroppyse
    I don't think I would watch a season 3 if it didn't have both Fox brothers. Their bromance was what made me stick with season 1 and watch season 2, and I enjoyed season 2 more because the bromance was more plentiful. Think I'll have to rewatch the whole thing again. The problem with going back in time is that it messes with the future stories where LR and LY are at odds with each other, at least at the start of the drama. I'm thinking that they could do a time jump forward where LR is miraculously been restored again, LY and Shin Ju both have children (kits?) with their respective spouses, and everyone is balancing family and demons. Not sure how they'll bring back the mermaid for LR, but they would have to do that as well since apparently foxes mate once and for life.
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    I had to ff through episode 6. It was pretty gut wrenching when CEO Choi and his knifers died. Even though as men of violence, they said they weren't afraid of dying and what not, it was still so sad. Especially, the married knifer. And, I mean, all three of them had put their violent past behind them (mostly) and were doing honest work and making lives for themselves until they decided they had to bring KMG down. I also thought that episode 7 and 8 would have been stronger if HJ had stayed and the trio would have taken them down. Director Lee's granddaughter was not actually that interesting an addition to the group. I know that RL interfered with the original plotting, and I'm not condoning whatever KSR did (though not sure what she did or whether I care about it), but for the sake of the story, I wish the scandal would have broken after the drama had finished filming.
  3. stroppyse
    You're probably right, but if so, then all this prequel stuff makes Season 1 pretty illogical, e.g. given the relationship that Rang and Yeon forged in 1938, why would Rang be out for vengeance the way he was in Season 1? Though given that it's just a drama, I'm probably being too pedantic about it anyway. I'll defer to @Tofu on this one since I don't remember a specific number of mountain gods mentioned in S1. However, I always assumed that there were more mountain gods. Given Korean folklore, almost every mountain/range had it's own regional god rather than there being a "One True Mountain God," so I had assumed that Yeon was one of those. Well, season 1 would be a completely different story if Rang didn't harbor hurt feelings toward Yeon and was also more powerful. I have mixed feelings on being reborn. On the one hand, Rang would probably lose his power and his memories, so he wouldn't have the bromance with Yeon. On the other hand, Rang wouldn't be completely dead to the world, so he and Yeon could find each other again in some lifetime. And also, it's a fantasy, so we might as well wish Rang to be restored to life somehow so that the bromance can live on in the modern day as well.
  4. stroppyse
    I agree. I'm not up on the scandal regarding KSR, but in terms of this drama, it's actually good as the trio, and I think it's going to lose something when KSR's character gets cut. The reason president Choi started all this was for the sake of his granddaughter, and he hired GW and WJ to protect her. I was surprised to see him in this drama, but think it's a good choice for him because it is very different from his leading man roles. I think that CSW is improving as an actor, but he could still learn a lot from the veterans like HJH and PSW. To be honest, I actually think that CSW's more memorable characters are when he's a supporting character ('When She Was Pretty' and 'King of Dramas' anyone?).
  5. stroppyse
    Thanks for the shout out @mademoiselle. I'm on episode 4 of this drama right now, but I'm having a hard time watching because of the level of violence in it, though I realize that it's necessary for the story. I was also surprised by Kim Sae Ron being on the drama since I thought she was taken off the drama because of a scandal? Also, she didn't get a cast credit in the intro. I do rather love the bromance between GW and WJ. GW is the pure heart and WJ is the streetwise hustler, and they seem to complement each other so well. Read the thread and noticed that KSR's character disappears after the 6th episode? Also, is there a second part planned for this drama?
  6. stroppyse
    I was wondering about that. How can the future not change with everything LY did in 1938? For instance, I can't imagine that LR still has so much hatred for LY after what they went through. LY 1938 is a mean pathetic opium addict, however, LR now knows what LY will become, not to mention their bromance. I wonder if when LY finally gets back to his timeline, he'll find that things will have changed? Who knows, perhaps in the new timeline, LR is still alive with his mermaid. I'm still playing catch up on this drama, but I am enjoying season 2 more than season 1. I think the bromance is better than the romance in season 1. I want LY to get back to his wife, but it would be strange to think that the world did not change somehow. I didn't realize that there would be a season 3, but now, I'm very curious about it. I hope that HJ and MY come back for season 3 as well.
  7. stroppyse
    I just saw the preview for episode 15, though have not bothered to watch the episodes themselves any more. It still feels as if they're trying to put SIH and JS back together, with SIH even wanting to donate his liver to JS finally. Still, it feels as if SIH is still a selfish git who is only finally realizing how much he has to lose and not wanting to lose his comfortable life. Plus, I do feel that once a philanderer, always a philanderer. I agree with you, especially since they never really fully developed Roy Kim as a character. I'm not sure what the initial intent was, but the focus switched to the love triangle between SIH, JS, and SH and stayed there for the most part. I think JS really needs to be by herself and figure out what she wants from life for herself. Her children are old enough as well that they shouldn't need JS to sacrifice herself for their sake any longer.
  8. stroppyse
    Thanks @Tofu!
  9. stroppyse
    Where is this drama airing outside of Korea? I checked Netflix, Viki, and Amazon Prime, but none of them seem to be airing it? Well, we're so conditioned to retcons now, especially with all the inter-related superhero films, that it shouldn't surprise us that the prequel will have a different look than the original? But I agree that they did not have a prequel in mind until the original drama became so popular, and then they had to figure out a way to bring Lee Rang back since what people loved most was actually the bromance between the fox brothers.
  10. stroppyse
    I think I'm going to drop this drama. Last weekend's episodes were completely ridiculous. Plus, the scenes in episode 12 including the ending where IH passes out, as well as the preview for episode 13 make it seem as if the drama is going to put IH and JS together again, which I completely object to. The only character who doesn't annoy the heck out of me right now is the chief resident, and I think she is far too good for Jung Min. Anyone have any recommendations for something else to watch?
  11. stroppyse
    She did, but verbally, she left it a bit open in that she says that they need to "make some decisions soon" when SIH couldn't answer her question of getting a divorce from his wife. I didn't find the mother's actions surprising. SH was the favored one back then. SH clearly came from a more affluent family. However, now with the scandals that would ensue, the MIL wouldn't look forward to that, especially since SH doesn't come with buckets of money and prestige anyway. Not to mention jeopardizing her relationship with her grandkids, the ones she actually saw grow up versus SH's daughter. Plus, the MIL is smart enough to know that JS' good nature is what is keeping her in the marriage despite all that SIH and his mother have done to (and not done for) JS. Anyway, I can see the MIL being saved from being scammed by her trick of putting the building in JS' name, and possibly being rehabilitated, but I really don't want JS to be back with SIH. If it starts going in that direction, I'll probably drop this drama.
  12. stroppyse
    Not much actually. It's interesting that k-dramas have more and more story lines about multiple relationships between 2 in-law families. It's a pretty major shift from when that was considered completely taboo. I think I'm just checking in occasionally to this drama rather than actively watching it. It's still a pretty frustrating watch for me.
  13. stroppyse
    I agree that he's having a mid-life crisis, but he's been having it for 18 years, given how old his daughter with SH is. So, mostly I think he's weak and a coward. I despise SH for being with him knowing that he's married with children, though I guess from the POV of wanting a father for her own daughter, perhaps it makes some sense. Though, it shows true heartlessness on her part since the only way she could really get SIH to be a father to her daughter is to destroy JS and her children. I would hope that he was a good doctor. Otherwise, Gusan Hospital would be in a lot of trouble since SIH is a department head. Since JS was an intern and IH a resident when they got married, JS stayed home to have the baby and then take care of the baby and the household, especially since JS and IH moved in with his mother. Given IH's mother being the way she is, I doubt she would have accepted JS as a working mother, though it seems to have broken JS' mother's heart a bit that JS quit being a doctor. I don't really care if JS and RK start seeing each other or not, but I would be very unhappy if JS went back to IH. He's the man who would rather JS risk death than give her a piece of his liver. He's weak and a coward, and honestly, even SH deserves better than IH. I hope that after finding out about SH's daughter, that their marriage is completely over. I think for the sake of her children, she might have been willing to stay in the marriage even with IH's infidelity. However, knowing that he has a daughter with SH should change her thinking. IH will always have another family on his mind and his heart. Even if SH and IH breaks up, that won't change that IH has a daughter with her and so will always be involved to some extent with SH and her daughter. Anyway, I think JS has to completely end things with IH in order for her to move on with her own life.
  14. stroppyse
    Agreed! @Tofuyou are a good seller for this drama. Then again, I seem to have gotten plenty of recommendations (and otherwise) from you when I wasn't sure which dramas to give a go. Thanks! Otherwise, getting back to this drama. I really hope that JS realizes the truth about SIH, his mistress, and his other daughter. I don't want them to somehow be able to keep her fooled any longer. Even though everyone is concerned about how she'll take it, she needs to be able to take agency of her own life rather than feeling as if she "owes" people, especially the betraying, lying husband and his foolish mother.
  15. stroppyse
    @mCanva, so I got interrupted mid-season on this drama and didn't go back to finish watching it because it didn't grab me the way season 1 did. Having watched season 2 til the end, do you recommend finishing it?
  16. stroppyse
    Thanks to @Tofu's encouragement, I started watching this drama and have finally caught up on all of the aired episodes. I like this drama more than I thought I would. I think Kim Byung Chul is doing an excellent job with the loathesome character of Seo In Ho. It's clear that SIH was raised as a spoiled, privileged kid tied to his mother's side. His lack of moral ethics is clearly shown from a young age when he was dating Sung Hee, but slept with Jung Sook at a class MT that SH couldn't attend. SIH only married SH because she had gotten pregnant, and that was also the only reason that SIH's mother consented. Further amoral behavior from SIH when he went on a visit to America and then hooked back up with SH, and ultimately fathering a daughter with SH. Also amoral behavior from SH who knew that SIH was married with a kid when she slept with him and decided to have his child. It is pretty gross that SIH's 2 daughters are so close in age. So, SIH wasn't opposed to sleeping with his wife until SH came back to Korea and he started up with SH again. I do feel terrible for all of the children. SIH is a terrible father to all of his kids. He spends time at work and with his mistress, but he spends very little if any time with any of his 3 children. I think she feels that her man was stolen from her by another woman who succeeded by scheming to have his child. And then when she runs into the man again, I'm sure he gave her some story about how miserable he is in the marriage. And, then they had a child together. And, when she comes back to Korea, they continue their affair. She wants to believe that it's a matter of time before he leaves his wife and comes to her instead, because they were the true couple meant to be before he was seduced away. So, basically, she's like a lot of women who blame the other women rather than their faithless men who can't keep it in their pants. Blech. I think I'm more with @ktcjdrama on this one. JM's girlfriend is rude, but I think she's a chief resident and her manner is to be short and frank, even to the point of rudeness, to all of the more junior residents. If anything, I appreciate that she doesn't give special consideration to JS, either better or worse. Having said that, could she be less rude to everyone? Well, yes, she could be more polite and encouraging, but then again, she's probably tired as well and was probably trained under a similar system. So, she's doing her job by scolding the residents and giving clear (if rude) guidance. And she does give praise when she feels it's warranted. However, I am looking forward to her finding out that JS is her bf's mother and her future MIL. As for Dr. Roy, he hasn't really made that much of an impact on this drama yet, other than being eye candy. I appreciate that he may be helping JS feel like a good, attractive person and woman again, but it doesn't really matter to me if JS and Roy end up together or not. However, I absolutely don't think that JS should be back with SIH in any way, shape, or form. Leaving aside all of the betrayal of their marriage vows, SIH was the man who was okay with JS dying rather than giving her a part of his liver. SIH's mother also preferred that JS die rather than her son giving her a portion of his liver. This is an absolutely toxic mother-son pair for JS to be with, and they will never appreciate her enough, especially since they both looked down on her for so long. SIH is feeling jealousy because another man is paying attention to the wife he didn't want, but it's very much a dog in the manger thing. JS needs to be living for herself.
  17. stroppyse
    Yes, but you're a more rational person! What JYJ didn't want was for her husband to see KY's mother ever which he would probably do if his son was living with his mother. It really speaks to JYJ's insecurity, I guess. As it was, she wasn't abusing KY, but she was unhappy whenever it seemed that KY might be having fun and seemed determined to keep him doing nothing but studying. It's an interesting torture to force him to do nothing but study. Wonder if that's a commentary on the loads of parents who enforce that on their own kids in the name of "helping them succeed". It makes me wonder what kind of adults the kids will become if they are so stressed and unhappy during their childhoods in the first place.
  18. stroppyse
    I'm baaaaccckkkk! And, I'm even caught up. I guess I'm hooked on this drama after all. I still love the interplay and bromance between the three guys, and their back stories are interesting as well, even if a lot of it is sad. My understanding is that she was the husband's first love, but his mother was opposed to her, so he ended up marrying SSH's sister instead. It was a match that their families made. SHS mentions how he regrets not having supported his sister when she was asking for his help as she was resisting getting married. Anyway, the husband ended up divorcing the SSH's sister and marrying JYJ anyway. JYJ is still upset about that, and she wanted her husband to take custody of his son because if KY lived with his mother then her husband might have to continue to be involved with that other woman. JYJ doesn't seem to be a very nice person as well as being a control freak, so not sure why the husband ended up with her, however, there is no accounting for love, I guess. Anyway, JYJ doesn't seem to want KY to see his uncle because it's a tie to his mother aka the other woman. I assign it to being a control freak. Frankly, I think it might be healthier all the way around if KY lives with his uncle SSH instead or with his grandmother, if she's sincere about taking him. Then JYJ, her husband, and their daughter can be their own family. Though, I think their daughter may have issues about losing her older brother. I think there are also inheritance issues at play as well, btw. Btw, I think the grandmother wants a divorce from the grandfather, but there is more than just their relationship at play. I think their is also control over their combined business empire. Totally agree! Well, it seems that the foreign wife only married him so that she could leave her own country and also get some money to send back to her family. Plus, she was probably having an affair with a man from her own country. It's just completely sad all the way around. Agree that JYJ is pretty awful in how she set it all up though.
  19. stroppyse
    Just came back and realized it's finale week. I still can't stand the MIL. Also, still can't stand DS. Oh well. I think KJ, YY, and MRN will get their happy ending.
  20. stroppyse
    I know! The child actress did a great job with the crying. And, both HM and HK should feel guilty! They are causing all this hurt and trauma to MRN which neither of them thought anything of. It's only right that they see the consequences of their thoughtless actions, especially HK.
  21. stroppyse
    Do Shik. Ugh. However, it's really ES who just has not matured at all, and I find myself despising her especially after the conversation with the grandmother in one of the video cuts. ES has the nerve to complain about her mistreatment by the grandmother, but really, the grandmother has asked her to take care of the house and make the family food while everyone else in the family works. Well, other than ES' precious children who were coddled much longer than they should have been. That includes YY who had been giving money to the MIL for "living expenses" all along anyway. ES has not been screamed at and hit by the grandmother. ES is the crazy woman who never really liked YY and hated the idea of her precious son marrying her, and vocalized it every time she was in a bad mood. ES is the one who kept wanting to throw YY out of the family. Actually, ES has had her husband and MIL catering to her unreasonable behavior for the sake of peace in the family. I also don't think that YY and MRN should move back with the family. MRN can go and visit the grandparents and great-grandmother. However, given ES' true sentiment and behavior, it's not healthy for YY or MRN to be exposed to that. As it is, MRN will probably be scarred for a long time by hearing her grandmother say that her mother killed her father. Agreed. SJ was already on a guilt ledge anyway, then to hear that his mother deliberately caused KJ harm sent him over. The one thing wrong that SJ did was to panic and call his mother rather than emergency services at the incident with DJ. However, he believes that all the other bad things that have happened, all happened because of him because that's what his mother kept telling him. His mother's cruelty towards KJ and later YY, were all in order to promote and protect himself, and no matter how horrified he is, SJ couldn't get his mother to stop or to acknowledge her wrongs. The guilt is just overwhelming for him. That's the way I think SJ would feel. In SJ's mind, a life was taken because of him, so he must give up his own life in exchange. All the other bad things that happened probably only solidified his thoughts that if only he didn't exist any longer, the other people whom he loved might have a chance to be happier. Death is a bigger punishment than jail, not that death is an easier out. I do like the idea of MRN being sick, and SJ being able to be a donor for her. I think this is a better way of bringing more healing for SJ, KJ, and YY anyway. I had thought that SJ would die while saving MRN and/or YY, but literally giving his blood to MRN to save her is better. And then SJ wouldn't have to die. He could do "penance" by being MRN's protector for the rest of his life. :) No sympathy for ES, so don't care other than to think that YY and MRN should not live with her ever again.
  22. stroppyse
    Preview translation Uncle: That is the location of Do Jin’s accident. HM: He’s not thinking of doing something irrevocable, is he? SJ: I can’t forgive Mom, and I can’t forgive myself who was born as mom’s son. HH: If only you can save Se Jun, I’ll admit to all the sins I’ve committed until now and accept the whatever dire punishments. SJ: I’m sorry Lee Young Yi.
  23. stroppyse
    I think that I took this as the writer not approving of these attitudes towards blended families, rather than condoning their feelings or actions. That even HJ who is relatively younger should admonish MY for having raised a child who wasn't his points to how this attitude is not just the old people, it's relatively young people as well who believe that blood is so important, therefor nature rather than nurture. Ultimately, as the stories play out, I think the importance of the bonds that are forged will prove to be more important than just being related by blood. As you mentioned, the situations of TJ, JH, and JW who have at least 1 parent who is not a birth parent are presented in similar and yet different lights. TJ's mother is a very traditional way of thinking, so that even though she is the mother who brought her child into the marriage, she seems to have suffered a lot of guilt towards her husband and MIL in doing so. Therefor, she treated her own daughter harshly while raising her, and she became determined that her daughters should not suffer the same fate that she did, though both TJ and SR ended up in extraordinary circumstances of their own. I think it's that feeling that caused her to lash out so much against TJ and SR, thinking that they would marry men TJ also knew about her parentage all along, and so allowed herself to be treated poorly by her grandmother, even while feeling it to be unfair. JH grew up missing the mother she didn't really know, though there seems to have been some contact over the years, or possibly that was her maternal grandmother. I think because JH didn't have a lot of information about her mother, her longing for her mother was both present and suppressed and made her more susceptible to her mother's manipulations, especially abetted by NS, the man who supposedly loved her. I think JH is a poorly written character frankly, little more than a plot device at times, and it's not helped by the fact that the actress seems to be a newbie. Rather than empathizing with her suppressed longing for her mother and the subsequent betrayal that she feels, she came across as a petulant, self-centered, willingly oblivious child through this last story arc about her mother. As for JW, I appreciate the shock that JW is working under after finding out that not only is he not his father or his mother's child, but that he was the instrument for his father's revenge against his family. I think the actor portraying JW is doing really well to convey his confusion, hurt, sense of right and wrong, and feeling apologetic and regretful for the role he has played in disrupting their lives, even if it's not his fault. As for the family, I feel that the family is trying to be mindful of JW's feelings, but still aware of protecting SJ and his career since all of their livelihoods depends on SJ continuing to be able to work rather than being sidelined by scandal. Not to mention that it's not fair to SJ to lose a career he wants to keep doing through no fault of his own. TJ's mother and grandmother are too much, and possibly the least sympathetic characters in this drama who haven't actually lied or tried to cheat to anyone. Having said that, all three of the siblings are in extraordinary, problematic relationships, so perhaps I cut them some slack despite their unreasonable prejudices.
  24. stroppyse
    Office Manager HG apparently is married, but not divorced yet as @twink_twink_pointed out. I think I misunderstood a scene of a conversation with HG and HS that HS had also been married, but I went back to watch the scene more closely, and I think I was wrong that HS was married. Something bad did happen to HS and there are people looking for him, but I don't think that's his wife. I went back to edit my comments so as not to confuse any lurkers on the thread.
  25. stroppyse
    Translation of the preview HM Father: Are you going back home? YY: I’ve rented a place to live, uncle. Grandmother: If Young Yi doesn’t come home this time, I’m going to chase you out! You know that the owner of this house is So Bok Hee, right? (meaning that the house is hers, not the DIL’s) SJ: This is the last time that I’m going to call you “mom”. I am no longer mom’s son. I think it's good that YY moved out as well, though it's going to be really tough for her, especially taking care of MRN as well as finding a work place. However, that house was just too toxic for both her and MRN, and despite the support of the father and grandmother, they couldn't keep the mother in check. Anyway, the mother truly blames YY for the death of her son. If only he had not married YY, if only YY had not called him as she was going into labor. It doesn't make much sense, but it shows how much she hates and resents YY. Also, in that house, ES could just take out all her anger and resentment on YY as the mood hits her since she can't really take it out on anyone else. It's not the first time that ES screamed at YY for being the cause of her son's death. And even after all this time, she's still doing the same. Even if she comes to her senses and apologizes, I think YY and MRN need to stay away from ES. Btw, ES is a weird one for thinking that she could raise MRN as a happy child after tearing her away from her loving mother. It actually seems to show that ES doesn't even consider MRN as a person, but rather some DNA left by her son. Anyway, I was happy to see that YY took MRN even if it was in the night and moved her to some place where MRN can't be easily reclaimed. If it had not been HK's fault for the ruckus over the unsubmitted lawsuit, I have no doubt that she would have immediately been on the phone to ES about MRN. I'm not sure where YY and MRN will end up, but with KJ and grandfather probably won't be for awhile. I just don't think that YY and MRN should ever live in the same place with ES again.
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