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Haha, yeah I don't consider myself super lucky in life, but when it comes to workplaces it's been great fun and I feel like I've found that needle-in-a-haystack boss who is like a mentor/friend as well. Cha Young In is literally like the female version of him (minus the smoking ) and maybe that's why I was so fond of her! Yeah selling the instrument felt a bit extreme - I don't know how she could let it go so soon having loved it so much? I feel like it would have been good to keep as a reminder and pull out when she was older? I'm not sure how long it takes to forget how to play an instrument...But as a keepsake? Maybe it was like a breakup and as you said, needed to be clean cut. Haha, the vandlism was so cute! And I definitely support reel to real! (But only if it's happy forever. Getting together and breaking up hurts more than it never happening I was burned by the Weightlifting Fairy couple XD)

Yeah, I know what you mean - I wish there was a bit more to that happy start because it did feel like things got pretty bad real quickly. I wish it had been slightly more subtle and incremental in the bad things that were happening at times. The child telling the parents to get a divorce does happen in irl when fighting is really intense and kids are forced to play messengers or parents are abusive? It's sad when parents can't be the parents. I wasn't a fan of JY's mother, to be honest. She didn't feel like much of a character to me...but that's a good theory about how he would get the money from the son through the mother. I guess at least then her shop wouldn't be in danger from him using it for his bad ventures Haha, have to admit, I read this differently It looked like he was disappointed that JY didn't need him to still play well and be well. But maybe I just want to group him with the other terrible teachers. As for the catty teachers, I wanted them to be punished, to learn a lesson, but I guess at least nothing good happened either. It's just the way it would be in real life most of the time. People always seem to get away with bad behaviour and that's why they keep doing it I feel it's an underlying Asian value, especially in romance dramas. Like you find your career, but don't forget to get married and be by your husband. But in this case, I'm gonna let it slip a little because the job at the nice music centre was tied to managing JY so it's not like she could accept the job, but not help with managing JY, I guess. To be honest, a part of me wanted this too. It's nice to see people succeed, especially favourite characters! But I'm also satisfied that she was just average because a lot of dramas tend to focus on success and so few on finding individual happiness when you don't succeed. Talking to a friend who started violin late in high school and gave it up 4 years later, they said the same thing as Mr Park - the time to catch up is really hard because a lot of people start as small kids. It's not impossible, but the chances of being really good is so much slimmer. So I think if the story had gone down that route, it might have had to be more fluffy/ less serious or slice-of-life in the genre to get her to that point I guess...maybe they also wanted it to be believable to super musical people?

HAHAHAHA is everyone still alive after the plot twist?! I'm not sure how to feel either, but I'm too invested and charmed by this series and Lee Jae Wook now that it's too late for me to back out now I'm hoping there's another plot twist and they've mistaken his age, or he hid his real age from others, but so far I think I'm going to have to accept what they've given us - that he's a highschooler!! I wish he could have at least been first year uni, but then I guess that would remove the shock factor by tenfold. So many thing make sense now - like all that talk about his college degree and his nervousness around Rara and the hunt for him by his "mother"? But I'm honestly still loving the fun wackiness of this drama and the weird mysteries around the characters. It's like we're getting a drip feed into Jun's life and Dr Cha's, but it's like only tiny peeks. Dr Cha seems to be inspired by Rara's boldness to say what she wants and still be liked by all. But I can't tell if he likes her or is fascinated by her charms and wants to protect her from Jun...is that the same thing? Ahhhh, The fact that Rara ran back to his house after leaving was cute. And Lee Jae Wook playing guitar got me so bad . And he was so wise when he said you need to look back on your past, be aware of your present and imagine your future in order to have dreams....he can't be that young right?! The humour for this series really speaks to me though - like silly and cute and can be an actual laugh out loud. Like when Rara said her dream was to eat beef tenderloins, and then said dreams don't have to be grand. Or when Rara dragged Dr Cha to the cafe and the 4 of them sat watching Jun while eating their food XD I just find it so funny and endearing! Well, here's to tomorrow!

Episode 16 (Finale) comments - PART 2 -Another scene I really liked was the scene with her mum. Throughout the series, she didn't seem that close to her mum. But it was nice to see their conversation reveal that typical Asian parent worry - she was always worried about SA going down this road because she knew that it would be tough and she was frustrated that she couldn't protect her or change her mind about it. But I liked that she knew JY had was able to do that for SA and helped to encourage that reunion between them. - And now I have to talk about all those lovely signs of affection from JY and SA because those are obviously the best parts of the ending. THAT KISS. Everything leading up to that kiss was perfect. I loved how JY wasn't sure if SA had come to that performance. And that he was so nervous when he thought she was knocking on the door, then so crestfallen he saw it wasn't her. Then when it was her, he had such a heartfelt look of joy and hope. And then he was so eager to let her know that he had used her program, that everything had been a misunderstanding because he was over the past, and he wanted her to know, using their language of music that he loved her. This is the stuff of a Jane Austen novel. - I also loved how 'mean' SA was to say that she came as a friend because JY looked so completely crushed when she said that, but then so completely stunned and dazed when she said she loved him. I have to say, making KMJ repeat all his confessions at least 3 times each was very effective like a spell! He has a nice voice, so it made that scene all the more better. Thank god this series has not had those old school frozen kisses! They shot it from such lovely angles -from how he pulled her towards him and from her having her arms around him. And they kissed twice in such a dreamy way -Also backhugs are so damn cute. I don't know why I feel like that's the ultimate sign of affection. But I died when they hugged in that music room before graduation happened. And those wordless proposal was perfect because JY and SA have never needed to say a lot ot understand each other's moods and temperaments. -I know that a lot of people wanted SA to succeed with her violin, but I think this was a story about someone finding themselves, not about becoming an expert at something. It was a story about trying something and learning about oneself from that experience. It was also about picking oneself up again when hitting rock bottom. Lastly, it was a story about having the courage to live life without falling into other's expectations and changing one's mind if the the choice feels right. And also that even if your dreams don't come true in the way you originally wanted, it's not the end of the world, you will find new hobbies and interests and goals. I think we could all be reminded of these things, but this is especially important in Korean culture which has such a focus on perfection, the ultimate root of depression. But I do think that music was a good experience for SA since she met JY out of it! -Ironically I guess Professor Lee was kind of right that SA was going to be really helpful to her husband! Some might see that as not very feminist (and I do think that Asian shows have some element of promoting traditional roles), but I saw the whole message as SA finding things that were right for her. And if her job involved some elements of managing her husband's travel plans, why not? JY would also never treat her as a secretary, as Director Nah pointed out - Like all dramas, nothing is ever perfect. I do agree with @ktcjdrama who said it was a little rushed at the end and it felt like problems dragged out for weeks suddenly felt easy to resolve. The 2 mains things were: If it was so easy for JY to tell his mum to get divorced, why didn't he sooner? And how would that stop his dad from borrowing money? But I guess if if he had to play piano to get the money, he no longer felt bad about it? The other thing I raised an eyebrow at was the stage mum and child deciding to switch from Professor Song to JK to give her a happy ending. I don't think stage mums just change their minds like that - it felt like it was missing a scene - like the child saying she wanted to quite violin or running away from home etc. Something to give the mother an epiphany. But these less realistic elements were balanced out weirdly by the 3 professors not getting punished in any way for their bad behaviours - that's realistic in that life isn't fair and people who hurt people often get away with it and keep going on that way. -All in all though I loved the ending and felt it was beautiful, poignant and thoughtful and that the series ended well with many good points to outweigh anything else. If it was very sweet, it was well deserved given the weeks of gloom that poor SA endured. I will miss this drama and the amazing chemistry between Kim Min Jae and Park Eun Bin!

Ok, I'm back to write my opinions! And I'm splitting up my comment in case it gets lost again Episode 16 (Finale) comments - PART 1 I want to say I was such an emotional wreck when I finished this series - but wrecked in a good way!!! Haha, I don't cry, but I was like - all the feelings!! It's probably because the two series I was watching both ended this week and it was 2/2 happy endings. I was not sure how this ending would go and would have accepted a realistic open ending for this series, but I was pleasantly surprised and super happy about most of the super sweet ending for this show. - I liked that the last episode started with JY telling SA his true feeling again. It just felt like it was the beginning of hope again after a long period of sadness and doubt for the two of them. As for the responses, I liked that SA didn't just accept his feelings so easily, but told him to wait. Not as revenge or a punishment (though it did was a mirroring of his earlier actions), but because having spent time away from her own relationship, SA could see that she also had to take responsibility for her own actions and feelings and she was a part of the reason she felt bad herself. Yay for self-awareness and development! -I was a little worried when the doorbell rang at JY's house that it would be JK not respecting his space again...but was glad it was HH. To be honest, their fight early on over JK meant that it didn't feel like HH and JY were really good friends in this series? So it was nice to tie up that end and at least make it seem like they were on the road to recovery. -On the other end with JK, I'm glad that JK finally stop meddling and realised the right person for her was HH who had always put up with her messy personality. I'm also glad SA put in the work to get over JK. I think JK was able to get between JY and SA because of JY's confused past feelings, but also because of SA's insecurities and her feelings that JK was perfect and better than her in looks, talent, wealth, history with JY etc etc...But that's why I really liked that scene where HN told SA about JK losing her position by Professor Song - I think it helped SA to see that even if people appear perfect, they can still have their dreams crushed. Being an empathetic person, it also helped SA to reach out to JK and I liked where their relationship ended - in mutual respect for one another. -So happy that SA got into her grad program, but also so happy she choose not to accept it. Sometimes that is the harder path - to reject something that looks like an opportunity, but really isn't right for you! But she set out to achieve a goal and she did it, which is what really mattered. -The scene that touched me the most in this episode was not a SA-JY scene (though they made me the happiest!) but the scene where she was offered the job at Kyunghoo Foundation Maybe it's a personal thing because I also work in the arts/culture sector, but that workplace looked perfect for SA with such kind and supportive staff (since the annoying Mr Park left). And it's be a place where she could still conect with music. It actually reminds me of where I work and Cha Young In and team remind me of my own team. I can't say I'm like SA (where is my JY??? ) but I can definitely identify with her insecurities - I've also asked the exact same question before - what if I wasn't good at the job and have gotten a similarly supportive response, so I could understand just how comforting those words would have been to her. Sometimes even if your job isn't your dream job, having good people around you makes the job worthwhile and enjoyable. It's better for SA to be in an events job with this team than a grad program with those evil professors who would have made her feel worthless....Haha, that reminds me, I was telling my boss about how I lost this long "essay" last night and he was like, "Don't worry you'll be able to write it again from memory, faster and better than before" ...some people always say the right things. So far I'm going ok!

So I wrote a looooooooooooooooooooong essay here (my 2 hour masterpiece of thoughts and feelings!)and then it got lost So I'll discuss tomorrow since it's pretty late where I am! But in short, I loved the ending so much. So many positive feels and I know I said I would be ok with a very realistic open ending, and I'm sure I would have been, but I was so so so so happy with what they gave JY & SA in the story. Maybe it was a little vanilla, but after all they went through, I can accept that. And they did balance this out in some ways which I'll talk about tomorrow!

Jane, you're going to love it!!! I just finished it literally a minute ago!!!! I'm so happy!!!! So so so so so so so so so happy!!!! I'll spazz about it in the thread though XD Enjoy your watch!!!

It's me, the slow one! Finally have time to sit here with my ice cream and watch the finale!! I don't think I've seen many spoilers, but I know it's going to be a good ending...or at least I keep seeing happy looking promotional stills of SA and JY! Be back in an hr to chat ^^

Netflix Korea just dropped this, so I believe The Swoon will put a translated version up soon

Just chucking this here...I did partial subs of the funny/interesting bits of this video for anyone who might struggle with Chinese. The times are in the video description or comments. Click to read subs till there's no more and then click on the next time:

It's the last week, so I'm just going to say I've enjoyed this series so much even though it's not necessarily what I normally watch - being someone who has no classical music background-...But I picked it up for Park Eun Bin who I've loved since Hello My Twenties! and was impressed because it was such a beautiful and thoughtful slice-of-life piece exploring a lot of things about talent and ambition, finding your path in life, overcoming the things that hurt you...and love, of course. Episode 15 - I left so pained for JY who felt so lost at the start of episode 15 having burnout from piano and separating himself from that as well as trying to heal from his split with SA. I'm glad he finally split from Professor Yoo. I think some people thrive under pressure and criticism...but I'm not one of those, so it always felt so sad watching JY being subjected to emotional abuse and understanding that he was not getting anything out of it - In fact it was putting him off piano playing. I'm glad Ms Cha also talked to Professor Yoo and told him how impressed JY was with him the first time they met to remind him of when he actually use to be a 'good' teacher. I feel like it kinda confirms what I said before - he use to be good, but became jaded and jealous of his talented student JY who he saw as "wasting" his talents. - I find it weird that JK suddenly swung back to thinking about HH especially since she so recently was still clinging onto JY. But I suspect it was the whole separation with him going off to the States. And her realising all her memories about him were always super vanilla. Like he was always so nice to her....Haha, not a huge consolation, but I guess at least she knew she was a difficult person - "annoyed and prickly" is the translation I got. -Speaking of JK, I'm glad she FINALLY processed that she didn't love JY but was jealous of his talents and had been messing with him because of that. I feel like she said those words like 3 episodes ago, but seems like she didn't understand them herself I think I can also see why JY would have liked her in the past but never made a move...she might have liked JY, but HH made her more happy even though she didn't know it (but JY could see this). It seem like this issue has been sorted from JY's end. Now it needs to be sorted from SA's end. - That conversation between SA and Director Nah was so awkward, fresh after the split, but let's hope it gave SA the encouragement or pressure to get back with JY. -Umbrellas are like the biggest metaphors for love in K-dramas....It was a thing in Doldolsolsolalasol as well! I was so sad for JY when he was talknig to Ms Cha about the umbrella and how he wanted to carry it everywhere...but then he couldn't anymore because SA felt burdened with him. - I was so shocked about Director Nah dying!! I did not see that coming. She looked fine to me!! But I guess she was K-drama "old" -Finally, the important bits: I just want to saying watching the Brahms performance was so beautiful. I can't tell classical music apart, so it sounded very professional to me, even if SA is meant to be average! I also really liked how meaningful it was that JY offered to play for SA, seeing that it was a Brahms piece...And that they held hands on stage. It showed that JY had processed his past wounds and he really wanted to support SA and be there for her on an important day. -And the way he said he loved her made everything skip a beat on my insides. Kim Min Jae just has a way of sounding so intensely passionate. Like he was actually breaking apart . And Park Eun Bin has those lovely sad doe eyes...I was like...just get back together!! It's love!! But seriously, JY has such trouble expressing himself that I'm glad he said it regardless of what will happen - he thought of himself for once and his words were so heartfelt.

You're right!! OK, gimme an hour and I'll be back to chat and write essays about my opinions

I feel sad...I can't watch episode 15 because the only site I watch from (kiss asian) has a broken link!! I can't access drama cool and viki doesn't show it in my region *Pulls hair* Do you guys know anywhere else I can watch the show??

Haha, this is the charm of the Taiwanese acting industry. I think the actors are quite charismatic and it's easy for them to build good chemistry with others coz they don't really get judged for it....and their directors are all for the intense passion scenes, soooo....making out is Making Out Haha, I wish they did it more often in K dramas too. But the culture is more formal compared to Taiwanese culture and the fans can be a little intense if they suspect something is going off, so I think they're a bit more protective of their stars Yes me too!! I wanted the story to be better after waking up. I felt like it was very pointless in the last 4 episodes. It dragged when XE was rejecting TX for AR. Also I thought there were lots of interesting subplots they could have used to make the main story more interesting...but those just tapered along till they were resolved uneventfully. But my main investment in this drama has been in the behind the scenes content. Just pure gold, how funny they were and the banter was super fun between Simon, Vivian and Marcus. Hahaha, this was me. I was only along for the ride to see Simon again. Didn't really have too much feelings towards the last few episodes, but really enjoyed their wrap up Live XD I'm doing a partial sub of the video should have it done soon!

I don't think Professor Yoo was any better tbh He wasn't catty like the other two female professors, but he was emotionally abusive to JY under the guise of being a strict teacher My reading on it was that he was partially jealous of JY and his behaviour became worse over the years (He wasn't jaded when he started out). Also, the way he stole JY's music and tried to gaslight JY to say it was his own music, not JY's....that to me says really messed up person

@cherrhys88 Looks like our guess was correct! He's leaving that loser of a teacher

This is a slightly different video? I think

I really like the webtoon and I'm looking forward to it I thought the casting was perfect - Always thought of Cha Eun Woo as Suho, but it is a bit of a similar role for him as My ID is Gangnam Beauty. Wow, it'll be released in December? The webtoon is still going though so wonder how the ending will work.

Not sure if anyone ever dropped the Eng subbed Swoon version of this BTS (I saw the Korean version on page 1 of this thread though) Just gonna leave this here...

Final "fan meet/ party" livestream. The drama was ok, but what I really loved what that behind the scenes cast chemistry. Will miss seeing them together for this.

I agree! The felt like all 3 professors got too much air time, but were all villains and all linked to JK meddling with SA & JY

Yep totally agree with this. I actually don't know what JY would do if he didn't play piano? I also don't think he's shown an interest in being a teacher. I think realistically he'll realise he's been under the wrong mentor and try someone else. Or I guess if it's an open ending he could quit and then see what he wants to do...but that is a weird thing. @mademoiselle OMG It's mimi!!! I love her so much She's their baby!!!

More new stills can be found here: https://thesedramaticdays.blogspot.com/2020/10/photos-first-stills-for-devil-punisher.html

II think it's coz he's been doing movies? And he's a family man now XD He has like a new baby daughter!

@abs-oluteM Haha, I'll get around to this tonight hopefully! I can't watch dramas during the day - it makes me feel sluggish. Got to wait till night :) But then tonight my current Taiwanese drama is doing final fan meet via FB Live. But Netflix just sent me the push notification and I'm finding it hard to resist Start Up...I'm sure it'll happen tonight...get back to you then XD