JenL

Episode 10

Episode 10 was such a stressful episode- it felt like everythiing was going dowm the drain from Mok Ha and Ran Joo's friendship to Mok Ha and Ki Ho's relationship to the whole family situation with the fake identities. By contract episode 11 was so much better (except the end- I'm fearing for the step dad! Pls save him - he's too good a person to die ) 

I agree that it's likely he'll survive, but they can use the attack to put real dad behind bars once and for all. It's been awhile since I've seen a parent so evill in a drama  

Episode 11

I'm so glad the prosecuter was smart and could see that the dad was a narcisist and psychopath and that the step dad was the real parent figure. But the one point I thought was weird - even though they established that the dad might have attempted murder on the insurance friend, they still let him roam around without an arrest?! They'd also mentioned that he'd stalked the family - why was there no restraining order???  Then again if anyone has followed the real -life mushroom poisoning case in Melbourne, it took them ages to arrest the mushroom lady, so maybe it's realistic 

The friend reunion was cute - it's funny how Ki Ho's friend married Mok Ha's friend. Guess they were all meant to be 

But OMG HEY KISSED  Haha it was such a beautiful moment because both of them are so pretty and have such sunshiney smiles, that the fact they had that dreamy sun-glow roof top kiss was  Also it was a pretty cute kiss scene because it was prolonged hahaha. Agreed @gilaswan and @mademoiselle that there wasn't a lot of build up in the romance, and I usually like those high-tension type romances, butttt.... I love these 2 so much and I guess this drama has a lot of events for only 12 episodes, so I'll take what I can get. 

As for Stepdad, I have to say he is such a good person. As much as we love our handsome Oppas, I think it real life, what I would want more than anything, is someone who would love and care for me and the people around me the way the step dad does for the mum. The way he said that he should have run after her sooner 

On 11/20/2023 at 11:31 AM, Tofu said:

@JenL needs to join us here for more Chae Jong Hyeop. LOL!

Yesss! I do!!! I am here for Chae Jong Hyeop now 

He's too cute for me to fangirl just by myself 

Also you capture the best of his on screen moments with your gifs 

On 11/20/2023 at 9:46 PM, mademoiselle said:

@Tofu That dimple... aigoo

I'm annoyed with that big mouth ahjussi! But I know that's what Bo Geol was counting on, him to tattle tale to his dad!

Haha, I think I have a big weakness for dimples: Jasper and Chae Jong Hyeop... and some of my less important adoptions like Nam Yoon Soo also have strong dimple game 

THAT BIG MOUTH AHJUSI MAKES ME SOOOOOOO ANGRY  In real life I would totally smack those uncles annd aunties down for being so nosey and disprectful. A kid is being abused and he just wants to gossip!

On 11/21/2023 at 9:26 AM, Tofu said:

@mademoiselle I think the glasses he wore might actually be his. I feel like I've seen him wear them in some of his Instagram photos. I felt so CJH deprived the first couple of episodes and now, I feel like I'm on cloud nine. He is definitely a VIP-tier oppa for me. 

He's sooooo adorable with glasses too   I still feel like he doesn't get enough air time, but at least it's a huge improvement now (I could just be biased though because I just want to stare at him all the time )

On 11/21/2023 at 9:26 AM, Tofu said:

I can't help but think of his character in Nine Tailed. They are kind of similar, don't you think? They are equally as annoying. Haha! 

 

Ahhh, so his specialty is to play nosey ahjussis 

On 11/21/2023 at 9:58 PM, mademoiselle said:

 

The bloody bogan mullet

 

How can I unsee this hairstyle now that I've seen it?! 

It's a huge trend here in Melbourne, especially amoungst the young hipsters. Along with the porn-tashe (moustaches that a really bushy that look like the kinds that seedy men would have )

On 11/23/2023 at 1:07 AM, abs-oluteM said:

 

@JenL I will answer you here about my SLS in Castaway Diva. If not for the deep history between BG/ KH with MH, I would have pushed hard for WH end game. But I feel it is not possible here since the story is already set up to have that connection between BG-MH. ChaeJongHyeop is very cute and I can see why everyone will be swooning. But my oppa taste is often different 

Fair enough! I think our Oppa tastes are sometimes similar and sometimes very different. But I know you definitely like the more traditionally manly-presenting guys compared to @SilverMoonTea who likes the more refined, slender, elegant ones 

Speaking of Tea, I heard your old favourite Ryu Jun Yeol has broken up with Lee Hyeri. That seems sad! They were together for so long! 

On 11/23/2023 at 2:50 AM, Chocolate said:

 

Does she also end up with the guy who appears only from ep 3? LOL.

 

Hahaha, yep, that's like this writer's style...the main lead will get air time halfway through the series after second lead has charmed you for several episodes 

On 11/23/2023 at 6:03 AM, Tofu said:

 

@JenL Lee Jae Wook recently talked about liking woody scented fragrances. He is the spoke model for YSL's Myslf. If he wears this one then, he smells good. I, personally, have this fragrance because I love the smell of it. 

 

Wow...I never thought I would write a post about fragrances in the oppa thread. 

Hahaha, I feel like that sounds about right. His love for fashon means that he also has a love for scents  

He would probably smell pretty good in real life 

I got a sample of it the other day - I'll have to test it out on a card as I haven't smelt it before! 

On 11/23/2023 at 7:04 AM, Tofu said:

 

@JenL

 

An extra because who doesn't like Chae Jong Hyeop when he's smiling?! 

 

OMG I died when I got to that gif of Chae Jong Hyeop in uniform. I'm not sure what it is, but he looks mighty fine! 

I hope they make him do more uniform roles in future 

On 11/23/2023 at 2:40 PM, Chocolate said:

 

You mean @SilverMoonTea only likes skinny? I thought she likes both pale and skinny. Although I don't know which is worse 😅 Don't they look so sickly if they are pale? It's not normal skin tone - they are whiter than normal. In Korea, the only one I've seen like that is Lee Jong Suk - but at least he has bulk.

 

Hahaha, I think in Australia, the preferance is the opposite - often the social consensus for male attractiveness is tanned and bulky....but I think this is also changing because there's also A LOT of kpop stans here and they would tell you otherwise! 

On 11/19/2023 at 4:55 PM, Tofu said:

tvN released the photos of the Chae Jong Hyeop as Ki Ho, who was waiting for Mok Ha at the station.

Chae Jong Hyeop in Uniform did a SEROUS number on me 

Like, I hink I had to rewind to see it again when I watched the episode because he looked so charming 

17 hours ago, Tofu said:

The editing for this was not seamless as it could have been. I was really confused with her appearance but today's episode explain that she is Ran Joo's mom. She has dementia so sometimes, she thinks she's Ran Joo.

6 hours ago, mademoiselle said:

I'm glad we have clarification who Wigen is. Hahaha! But how is it possible that a dementia lady can so easily “escape” the nursing home, and go all the way to the Brothers' Salon.

Oh man, I'm glad they finally cleared this up because it was so confusing! You know how some dramas seemlessly introduce new mysteries? This drama is not so seemless at it, but I guess at least it resolves the confusing things relatively quickly because it doesn't have a lot of episodes! 

17 hours ago, Tofu said:

 

@mademoiselle and I have been talking about this wolf cut for a long time now because we noticed a lot of male celebrities (both Korean and Chinese) are getting it. Some celebrities match this hairstyle (BTS's Jung Kook), but there are many who do not match it. I'm hoping this haircut will go away soon because if it's not maintained well it just look like an out of control mullet. 

 

OMG. There's moreeeeee people with this hairstyle?! 

BUT WHY???

I feel like Chae Jong Hyeop's hair before this was nicer... like his Witches' Diner era hair was pretty good. It was too short in Hot Stove League

14 hours ago, Tofu said:

The boys' adopted dad practically gave up on his life to help the mom when she was running away from the dad. I'm sure some might look at it as the adopted dad was taking advantage of a vulnerable woman, but I think he genuinely wanted to help her. Probably somewhere along the way, the two of them fell in love. He seems to really love the boys as his own and I thought this mirror scene with Ki Ho was the cutest. 

 

I don't know if anyone here is watching Strong Girl, but it's so strange seeing the actor who's playing Ki Ho's and Chae Ho's dad go from playing a loving dad to Nam Soon to such a horrible dad to the boys. 

 

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This family is so cute!

I love the stepdad in this drama! He's such a wholesome and kind hearted character. I've seen a few step parents around me that are like this and it always warm my heart to see that people can care for others' children as if they're their own. Conversely, the dad is so horrible that it's a reminder that blood doesn't make you family - it's the people who choose to care for you and protect you that's family. Haha, agreed though I'm so confused watching both Stroong Girl and this, it's like the dad has split personality! 

12 hours ago, Tofu said:

This one is for our SLS people (@abs-oluteM and @SilverMoonTea), Woo Hak's expressions were on point in today's episode. I laughed so much watching the McDonald's drive-thru scene. Haha!

 

My heart went out to him because you can tell that he's probably going to back off knowing that the younger brother still likes Mok Ha. Despite how unbothered he makes himself out to be, Woo Hak is actually pretty strong mentally. He doesn't have all his memories, but he doesn't let it affect him. If I was him, I would be so confused and unsure of what to do.

 

I hope Woo Hak and Ki Ho team up to get rid of their abusive dad. Both boys keep doing things separately when they are stronger together. 

 

Oh mannnn, I laughed SO HARD at that McDonalds scene!!! I feel like I almost never see McDonalds do the old drama product placement (compared to Subway), but I'd say this one was worth their dollars 

Yeah, my heart was a little broken for Woo Hak in Episode 8. I mean he's trying to be  good friend and good brother. He's trying to root for them, but you can't help those feelings when they creep up! 

On 11/12/2023 at 12:36 PM, mademoiselle said:

Regardless of who Ki Ho is, will a love line develop between Mo Hak and Bo Geol? There are only 12 episodes, no time to play-play. I don't mind not having romance, because visually I find Park Eun Bin looks too much older than Chae Jong Hyeop and Cha Hak Yeon in the drama. These two are too boyish and don't look their age, that's why. However, if we are going to have one then the Show needs to quicken up the process because right now, Bo Geol and Mo Hak have very little interactions!

I find it so odd that this drama is so short? But I don't mind the 12-13 episode range in both Kdramas and Tw-dramas because it means there's no drag in the storyline  

I think this drama only has a very mild romance line. It's not one of those hot and heavy romances. It feels kind of innocent because Seo Mok Ha still seems oddly childish/ immature. So the romance line has to be very wholesome and gentle? I think Park Eun Bin and Chae Jong Hyeop both look young, but agree that Chae Jong Hyeop and N both look so boyish that it's hard for all their female co-stars 

On 11/12/2023 at 8:44 PM, mademoiselle said:

IKR! I was like, "What?! He's 33!"

 

Wait, why are you the one having SLS instead?!!

HAHAHA WAIT WHAT. I THOUGHT HE WAS 28 MAX 

On 11/13/2023 at 1:27 AM, Tofu said:

I think if CJH wasn't the ML, I would have SLS too. I ❤️ CHY and have always wanted him in a role where he can shine. I still remember his small role in Bad and Crazy. I loved it. It was such a good cameo. 

I agree with this. N's character is not bad!

On 11/13/2023 at 8:33 PM, mademoiselle said:

 

@Tofu CJH is so shy. Sometimes I wonder how such shy people can become an actor. It's so hard to act in front of so many people and camera or even mirror.

CJH is so cute when he's shy! 

Shy people acting is actually not unsual! A lot of my actor/ performer friends are shy, but they say playing another character helps them to get out of their own skin. Like they feel like they can start new because they're being percieved as someone else 

On 11/13/2023 at 9:48 PM, SilverMoonTea said:

Decided to watch because I heard about the infamous "finding Kiho" activity from this drama 😂

 

Hahaha, yayyyyy it's @SilverMoonTea! Have missed youuuuu (I need to get back on the Oppa thread again!!!) Are you enjoying this or is it on the drop list?!

On 11/15/2023 at 5:02 PM, ktcjdrama said:

 

But what Ki Ho did for Mok Ha when they were younger was so impressive... so I am still torn... yeah, maybe better no romance then.

Yeah agreed. Look if any guy did that for me, I think I'd be i love forever 

Good thing that no guy has 

On 11/17/2023 at 12:44 AM, Tofu said:

@mademoiselle Hahaha! I haven't had time to make a gif of Chae Jong Hyeop. He longing eyes are my fav so I'll make one soon. Right now, I'm trying to indirectly promote Moon in the Day. 

Are we getting another Chae Jong Hyeop badge???? 

On 11/17/2023 at 1:49 PM, Tofu said:

@mademoiselle I would never turn down a request for Chae Jong Hyeop gifs. 

@mademoiselle have you adopted Chae Jong Hyeop???

@Tofu Your Gifs are chef's kiss  

On 11/10/2023 at 2:18 PM, mademoiselle said:

Hahahaha. Because you both were the ones who kept feeding me reasons for your habit of having SLS! So how can I trust that you guys will remain loyal to Chae Jong Hyeop (or any other Oppa) now that they become male leads? 

Hahaha Chae Jong Hyeop is in my top tier of Oppas, so I don't think I can ever fall for SL when he's around  But admittedly, I don't think he always picks the types of projects I love (For example, have never watched Neverthless because it wasn't something I was interested in), whereas Lee Jae Wook's projects always interest me and I'd probably still watch them even if he had not been cast in them. But Chae Jong Hyeop is just as important to me 

On 11/10/2023 at 2:18 PM, mademoiselle said:

Bloodhounds - there are no second male leads. This is a duo male-lead drama and no love line.

Destined With You - Oh c'mon, him over Shin Yu? Tsk tsk. *Disapproval for anyone with SLS for this drama* 😆

Taxi Driver 2 - no romance here. I thought SLS only applies to triangle love.

My Mister - Jang Ki Young was too abusive to ship with IU. 

Where Stars Land - Eun Seob (my poor Rowoon) has been friend-zoned from the beginning. Even I don't have SLS no matter how pretty he was back then. I was dead set on LJH and CSB pairing. 

Strong Girl, Nam Soon - I didn't watch this, but I created the thread for PHS/PBY and Byeon Woo Seok 😂

Hahahaha, I know a lot of these are not romances this year, but I actually think my SLS extends past romances. Sometimes I'll be into the second lead in a non romance and I'll spend all my drama time obsessing about them 

On 11/11/2023 at 4:35 PM, abs-oluteM said:

Bahahahaha are you sure ? I concur with @mademoiselle that your track record from the past may haunt you 

Hahaha, I'm also pretty sure I'll jump ship to the second lead in any drama that does not contain my god-tier favourites. (Rowoon dramas are constantly in danger of me falling in love with the second lead because while he's an Oppa, he is not on my God Tier list....though he was very hot in Destined with You) 

On 11/11/2023 at 4:35 PM, abs-oluteM said:

 

But hang on , did you and @Tofu have SLS in Love All Play? He was already ML then isn't it?

On 11/12/2023 at 4:41 AM, Tofu said:

I can't remember if LAP had a 2ML. If it did, I probably ignored them because I only remember CJH. 

 

NOOOOO.... I actually can't even remember who the second lead was in Love All Play 

(I see @Tofu said the same thing too!)

Love All Play was a drama I actually disliked, but continued till the end only because Chae Jong Hyeop was lead 

On 11/11/2023 at 4:35 PM, abs-oluteM said:

Funnily I do have SLS here but I have reigned it in. 

Hahaha do you still have SLS @abs-oluteM? Totally understand why for this series, though I don't have it myself. N's performance is great. At first, I was a little confused by his character. But I've warmed up a lot to him. Also, in a weird way that I can't explain he reminds me oddly of Lee Jae Wook. I think it's that kind of talkativeness he has about him. But sorry, Chae Jong Hyeop bringing too much charm for me this time 

Mannnn Episode 7 of this drama slayyyyyed me! 

I haven't felt the rush of romance addiction with this year's dramas...but I think I did  a bit when watching this episode. I love both Chae Jong Hyeop and Park Eun Bin. They both have such beautiful smiles and they're both super cute together  And I'm glad that they're giving Ki Ho such a grand moment. I also felt like this episode had good momentum and pacing. Like there's movements on all fronts from Mok Ha achiving her dreams, to Ran Joo learning to let go and faciing her fears of betryals, to Ki Ho revealing his identity and the father nearing his chase. Also there's a bit more revelation with the family secret and the lake. And I'm glad there was no weird editing - I still can't quite understand why Wigen was narrating as future Ran Joo? 

But I wonder if you feel this way @Tofu...But I kinda wish they'd fix Chae Jong Hyeop's hair!!! It's kinda fizzy at the moment and not his usual look - I just want to straighten it 

7 hours ago, mademoiselle said:

@JenL Money on Bo Geol as Ki Ho. Park Hye Ryun doesn't always troll us. Start-Up was the only one that was the odd one out. All the child grew up to be the main lead of the story, i.e., all of Lee Jong Suk's dramas, and he gets all his girls. But honestly, even with Start-Up, she didn't troll us with their identities. We always knew the kid was Han Ji Pyeong. The issue was why wasn't Han Ji Pyeong the endgame .

 

Hahaha I actually didn't feel trolled by Start Up because I knew Nam Joo Hyuk was lead and I didn't find Nam Do San to be unbelivable as a love interest since Han Ji Pyeong never openly outed himself to female lead till it was far too late 

I agree the stronger bet is on Bo Geol as Ki Ho - I do think it's more logical. I feel like one explaination of the last episode could be Woo Hak's memory of Ki Ho's dad is because he was attacked seeing as the dad thought he was Ki Ho which resulted in the accident making Woo Hak forget his memories. Because of that, Bo Geol is hesitant to ever reveal his identity in case in would put someone else, namely Mok Ha, in danger.

6 hours ago, Tofu said:

@mademoiselle No time for SLS when Chae Jong Hyeop is the ML. 

7 hours ago, mademoiselle said:

Eh, by right, you and @Tofu should be developing SLS for Woo Hak.

Hahaha how could you accuse us of entertaining SLS @mademoiselle when you know how much both @Tofu and I love Chae Jong Hyeop 

But also, I think this year I've become a changed woman. Haven't had SLS in soooo long  I loved the ML in every show I've watched, old and new dramas: Heartbeat , Bloodhounds, Destined with You, Taxi Driver s2, My Mister, Where Stars Land, Strong Woman Nam Soon 

(I guess I'm kind of cheating because I already love Lee Je Hoon who is in 2 of those dramas and a few of the other dramas have bad guys for second leads...but still! I think I've been very good this year )

On 11/6/2023 at 11:54 AM, mademoiselle said:

The editing is a little weird for this episode. What is that scene with the old lady in the wheelchair (= why is Wigen in wheelchair, hahaha!). Is that a future scene of Ran Joo reminiscing her past? It's so out of place.

 

On 11/6/2023 at 5:36 PM, abs-oluteM said:

Yes . What the heck was this ? I was confused thinking this must be Uncanny Counter crossover 🤣🤣. 

On 11/6/2023 at 11:00 PM, Mizv said:

Totally out of place,  assumed it was RJ mother?  As RJ mentioned even her mom didn’t know she had vocal nodules.

On 11/7/2023 at 3:47 AM, ktcjdrama said:

 

I also think it's probably her imagining herself when older and being able to talk about this come-back moment to other people. But I checked and Wigen is cast as Ko San Hee. So maybe like what @Mizv had guessed, she is Ran Joo's mother? 

 

I love how that actress ill forever be known to everyone as 'Wigen' from Uncanny Counter  

I was also really confused and thought it was RJ reflecting on the past (really confusing to have a flash forward scene). But I guess if she has a character name then she must be a new storyline that's not yet unfolded. I just wish that they would have edited her itroduction into the drama in a less confusng way 

On 10/29/2023 at 4:03 PM, mademoiselle said:

After watching episode 1, I told @Tofu Chae Jong Hyeop had to be Jung Ki Ho even though Chae Jong Hyeop's character has a different name. But then I suddenly remember Start-up and thought to myself, this isn't written by Park Hye Ryun, right? Lo and behold, it is! OK, now I've to reassess the whole situation.

HAHAHA oh noooooooo. When I was watching the first and second episode, I totally thought this reminded me of Start Up because of the whole first episode being related to a tragic back story. And then the whole Chae Jong Hyeop not getting enough air time....Ughhhh...what if Woo Hak IS Ki Ho, but Seo Mok Ha will end up falling for Bo Geol because he protects her and Yoon Ran Joo now in her adult life....ughhhhhh.....but surely, as a writer, she won't want to copy the storyline for Start Up twice will she?!  

But who knows? Maybe she really loves this sort of torturous storyline 

On 10/29/2023 at 4:03 PM, mademoiselle said:

And from here onwards, we have to throw away our logic for a moment because Mok Ha literally didn't have anything with her when she arrived at the island. 15 years later, she has plastic bottles, plenty of plastic umbrellas, cloth that she could use as blankets, knife, and ropes! Her shoes have holes in them and so was her shirt, but LOL @Tofu, her top is still really intact apart from some tiny holes. Hahaha.

This series involves a full suspension of disbelief  If you've ever watched the Tom Hank's Castaway movie, maybe she got her supplies when a FedEx plane crashed 

On 10/30/2023 at 6:48 AM, Tofu said:

You know, I've always wanted N to have more screen time and an impactful role, but Chae Jong Hyeop is ❤️❤️❤️. I hope we see more of Bo Geol in the next episodes.

 

I still feel deprived at episode 4. I hope he's cenntral to next week's episodes now that he's rescued Se Mok Ha 

On 10/30/2023 at 7:46 PM, mademoiselle said:

Woo Hak is too talkative to be Ki Ho. And are we sure he's the older one because he behaves like the younger brother and Bo Geol is the older one. Plus, coincidentally, he suggested to the PD to use Yoon Ran Joo. Hmm...

These are all good points though. I think Bo Geol presents more like Ki Ho in terms of behaviour, while Woo Hak just looks aesthetically more like him. The other thing I think is interesting is that Ki Ho already had video editing skills etc which is on the way to being a producer/ working in TV and music (Bo Geol's job) 

But there's always a chance this could be one of those dramas where the truth is obivious, but we complicate it because we want things to play out a certain way. Like in Twenty Five Twenty One , I think it was pretty obvious from the start that the main character had moved on. But we all wanted the main characters to be together so we looked for the evidence. In this drama, it'll be hard to accept if Mok Ha falls for Bo Geol, but it turns out Woo Hak is Ki Ho and he's still there. Ouch. It depends on how bittersweet the writer wants to make things 

On 10/30/2023 at 9:31 PM, abs-oluteM said:

So even if Woo Hak is Ki Ho, it won’t matter. As CJH is the 1st ML, he’ll end up with her . 
 

All guessing aside , I do have a soft spot for N & I think he’s got good push pull chemie with Park Eun Bin. But I won’t be fooled twice by this writer 🤣🤣. So in spite of a potential SLS on my part , I will keep an open mind. There’s  not enough scenes between her & CJH for me to see their chemistry yet - let’s see how the future episodes go. Hehe 😜 

This is the truth. I mean if CJH is first lead, then he gets the girl as the law of being first lead dictates 

On 10/31/2023 at 4:37 PM, ktcjdrama said:

Yes, I really like that last part. I appreciate that Yoon Ran Joo since long time ago is a decent person (no high-and-mighty diva personality) although she seemed misunderstood by other people....? 

I really feel sorry for Yoon Ran Joo. She seems like a person who's been tricked and gaslit about her talents. Her agent pretty much stole everything from her and continues to treat her like she's the crazy one 

On 11/3/2023 at 2:13 AM, abs-oluteM said:

You know what will be a complete troll from the writer? Both aren't KiHo ! 

Hahaha This is also a valid posibility. Then the writer is probably laughing at every fan theory she comes across 

Hello all! It's meeee. I am watching this series because I lovvvvveeeee Park Eun Bin and Chae Jong Hyeop, so I'm in for this one for sure. So far, I don't know if I love the drama yet...maybe it's this year coz I haven't been obsessively in love with any drama so far. I liked the first episode with the kids and I love the mystery surrounding who is Ki Ho because we all know that dramas with a good mystery hook us in. 

But I also think the mystery might also be why I feel a bit weird about this drama in that it's a little hard to tell the character's relationships because they you to be confused. I find the brother's relationship to be so weird. Do they get along? And what's with Woo Hak copying Bo Geol all the time? Haha, that would drive me crazy. Also I feel like Chae Jong Hyeop is not getting enough air time for my liking...I mean, if he turns out not to be Ki Ho then I feel like this is one of those Kdramas where the Second Lead position will have been stronger than the first lead *cough Start Up cough* 

Haha, I think BG is probably Ki Ho, but it's hard to tell at the moment. WH is meant to be the same age, but he doesn't remember the past except he has seen Ki Ho's dad before. BG is meant to be younger and he's very strongly opposed to WH identifying as Ki Ho. It's a 50-50 chance with my theories being the following for each scenario: 

1) BG is Ki Ho changed his look (ie. no glasses) to hide from his dad. WH doesn't remember his parent's adopting BG because he happened during the time of his accident. Accident may have been caused by WH enoucntering BG/ Ki Ho's dad which is why WH remember's Ki Ho's dad in a traumatic way.

2) WH is Ki Ho and was adopted by this family but doesn't remember due to the accident. Ki Ho's dad came to find him one time and endangered WH which is why BG is protective of WH and doesn't want him to find out in case it causes him to suffer.

3) I guess both of them could turn out NOT to be Ki Ho. But then does Bo Geol know the real Ki Ho? 

Anyway, I hope episode is 4 onwards is the start of more screen time for Chae Jong Hyeop 

20 hours ago, ktcjdrama said:

I think I'm having a severe SLS... for the FL and the villain!!  

Hahahaha nooooo!!!! I can't believe you're into the bad guy  But also I did laugh last episode because the bad guy was clearly into her and spilling his traumatic childhood to her while Kang Hee Sik was getting jealous watching tthrough the spy cam. BUT I wonder if the bad guy just wants to date her because combined they would have a mega strong child 

The romance definitely isn't super strong in this drama compared to original series, but I think the main 2 are playful and silly and cute. I really liked the ramyeon 'peck' kiss  

BUT from memory the webtoon is pretty cute and I love dogs....so not all hope is lost?   I'll see how much time I have. 

10 minutes ago, SilverMoonTea said:

 

@JenLcome here! 

 

Hahaha I like Cha Eun Woo, but I can't watch things when I'm not a fan of the female lead...Hahaha I don't know what she did to offend me btw...I've just never been keen on her projects 

On 10/18/2023 at 1:59 AM, SilverMoonTea said:

JenL, I actually warm up to OSW too 😆 @Tofu & @mademoiselle just laughing at me because I was saying he's not my type. I actually like his character here, seems to be a sincere, straightforward & honest detective.

Hahaha you've warmed up to him too! Hmmm, I think he's not your usual type, but I feel like you also often wonder outside of your usual type so I'm also not surprised. You have a very eclectic selection of Oppas  His character is rather sweet here and not overdone I feel. I don'r know if I buy his silly/ extra moments (like dancing in hs apartment in his underwear) as much as I bought Park Hyung Sik's extra moments though. I felt like PHS was more natural being extra whereas OSW is more natural being sincere and straightforward as you said. 

On 10/18/2023 at 1:59 AM, SilverMoonTea said:

Tbh the overall drama tones felt too comical for my liking. But the pairing not too bad, so I'll just watch until I feel like to drop it 😂 He seems already fell for her too, so not sure until how long this can sustain my interest... 

Yes, I think more than OSW not being your type...I'm more surprised you're watching this drama! I feel like this drama is not your drama type  since I know you love the hard-to-get, non existent pairings and maybe the less cutesy/comical type dramas (which is a type I like). He is already pretty into her though he doesn't seem to know it., so you might drop this soon. But I'm still glad you gave this a shot and think the main pair is cute 

On 10/18/2023 at 1:59 AM, SilverMoonTea said:

Also yes I remember OSW character in More Than Friends was a guy who kept rejecting the girl but stringing her along in the process. I forgot what trauma he have, but still kinda left some bad taste, eventhough the drama was kinda addictive for me at some point 😅 I watched Moment of 18, but barely have any memory about it 😂

On 10/18/2023 at 6:53 AM, Tofu said:

We pretend this drama does not exist. Every actor/actress has one of these dramas and this was Ong Seung Woo's. 

Hahaha it's that cursed drama! 

I couldn't watch that series. I think I watched 2 episodes? And my blood was boiling. I just remember thinking, "How can everyone like it?!" But I see no one liked it in the end 

Like I'm a fairly indescisive person...but stringing people along is not ok 

On 10/18/2023 at 3:19 PM, stroppyse said:

So, just caught the first 4 episodes of this drama. Is it bad that my fave part has been the cameo by Bong Soon and Min Min? They were just so adorable still!

Nah, I like this drama as it, but my favourite part was still the the Park Bo Young and Park Hyung Sik cameo for sure! 

On 10/18/2023 at 3:19 PM, stroppyse said:

As for this version of the Strong Girl, I'm a bit confused at how rich NS' family seem to be. I thought that they couldn't use their strength for anything other than doing good? I guess there is some question of whether the Mom and Grandmom were just really hard working people who happen to be strong, so preserved their power by not using it and just made their wealth through hard work and effort? But given how they just used their strength to deal with annoyances, e.g. the grandmother and flipping the annoying person's car upside down into the corner parking space, it would be an interesting take. And, the wealth does seem to be from the women's side rather than marrying into it as BS did when she married Min.

Haha, I think the sentiment in the drama is that evil is stuff that really harms other people rather than petty revenge. I guess the money-making also doesn't harm people since the family seem to use their wealth to help the broader community (ie. track down drug lords and such). 

On 10/18/2023 at 3:19 PM, stroppyse said:

This is my intro to OSW, so not sure how I feel about him yet. I like the character, but he hasn't really done that much as yet. I'm hoping that he and NS will have better scenes together.

 

I was happy to see that the fake NS story was dealt with quickly. Surprising that the mother was even taken in at all by the fake NS.

Haha, I agree. I'm hoping OSW's character is a bit more involved in the storyline. Though I also like the female cast and the storyline involving 3 generations of strong women mothers and daughters as well 

Yep, I was happy there was no drag with the fake daughter storyline. I suppose at first the mother was desperate to find her daughter and fill that hole in her life. Then later on, even when she knew, she felt sorry for that girl and tried to live by her rule of not treating others badly in case it hindered her daughter's karma. 

One thing I laugh at is how blantently she promotes Korean capitalism. It's pretty funny, but I think a fun way of looking at class and whether money buys happiness since Nam Soon has obviously been happy all her life even without money and luxury. 

I've just gone down an entire Min Min Bong Bong spiral tonght  

@Tofu I'll be here for Chae Jong Hyeop and Park Eun Bin. It's like a dream pair for me. And also I love Chae Jong Hyeop and know you do too 

Hello all! I'm here for this series!

On 10/13/2023 at 2:54 AM, ktcjdrama said:

I've watched both episodes and enjoyed them both! This is a drama where you check your logic at the door and just watch for the fun whirlwind ride. 

Glad you're watching this and enjoying thie seris too @ktcjdrama I have to say there's something really fun and cute about the Strong Girl series. Like it's prior series, the storyline and romance is cute and I'm really enjoying it. Nam Soon's strength is so far fetched that it's funny and silly, but all the characters have heart and the humour works for me. Also I already liked Lee Yoo Mi from all her other projects coz she keeps picking dramas I would definitely watch and she's shown her versatility in them by being the cool girl (Squid Game) and then mean girl (All of Us Are Dead). But now she's playing a cute character and I think she's so adorable  

So my early opinion is that the romance was stronger in the older series, but the storyline set up is better in the newer series. I mean things could change, but it's hard to beat that strong Min Min and Bong Bong chemistry. But I think the storyline is moving much better in this series so far. Less draggy and the characters all have really fun personalities. 

On 9/19/2023 at 10:17 PM, SilverMoonTea said:

Oh seung woo? Hmm maybe no @mademoiselle 😅

Haha, do you not like Ong Seung Wu too @SilverMoonTea??? I have to admit I've started to warm up to Ong Seong Wu. I think I didn't like him much for a long time because he looks a bit like a guy who was a big player with lots of girlfriends at my uni  but also I dont usually find that kind of look to be for me. With that said, during the Korean film festival, I watched a film called Life is Beautiful and he played the main character's first love and I thought he was kind of cute in that (Also the story line with his character made me laugh when you find out the truth). And I love that his character is so obviously soft for Nam Soon and is attracted by a strong woman 

On 9/20/2023 at 2:03 AM, mademoiselle said:

= I'm only interested coz of the cameo. 

ALSO LOVED LOVED LOVED the cameo with Park Bo Young and Park Hyung Sik. I nearly died when I saw the photos pop up on PHS's Instagram!!!   Even though it was a cameo, I felt like they really revived their characters and chemistry!!! How is it they were so belivable as a married couple in only like 15 mins?! Why are they so cute???? I love them both so much. Was happy they gave them ample screen time and explained how she was related to the main characters. Thanks for sharing all the pics and videos here @mademoiselle

Hello @mademoiselle and everyone else! I did finish this drama! I've just been so busy at work lately so my default has been to watch dramas and then pass out afterwards. And my on-going arm issue means I haven't typed as much as usual....Anyway I found Rowoon so pretty to watch in this series. But I don't know if the actual drama was for me in terms of the storyline. I will admit I kind of got bored in the later episodes when it got really fluffy but I didn't feel like there was much story to tell. It felt like they were trying to cram too many genres in - it went from comedy to melo to thriller to very mushy romance. But it might just be this year - I haven't really found any dramas, particularly romances, this year that have had me obsessing about them. 

I pretty much watched just for Rowoon being pretty and talented and pulling off the comic relief  I have a like-dislike feeling towards the way magic was presented in this drama. I liked that they showed it as being an unknown in that you were not sure if it really was a spell or not that caused the main character to experience what they were experiencing. I feel like often in dramas they make the magic very clear. But I liked this new idea because that's what we experience - you know, whenever people pray or go to see a psychic or something...we never really know if the supernatural stuff is real or something we just believe in and is a placebo to  explain or validate our own feelings or wishes. But the flip side to everything being explained by the doctors as part of his illness and hallucinating was that it felt anti-climatic? And then it felt like it didn't sit well with the past life storyline...because if she was a sharman in her past life and the magic seemed to work then, why was it so inconsistent in the future? And also, how did both of them come to suddenly see into their past lives without a logical tie to the past (ie. magic)? It's like all of a sudden she saw and understood all the things that had happened to them both...Felt messy in terms of storytelling? 

I wasn't a big fan of any of the side characters so fully agree with @gilaswan on the following: 

On 10/13/2023 at 3:29 PM, gilaswan said:

 

4. Gong-Ma wedding took up too much screen time. I’m with @mademoiselle on this - I don’t know how their side story advanced the entire drama. OK. maybe it provided some plot distractions but I could not appreciate them after a while. One good came out of it perhaps - Hongjo got closer to her colleagues. Sort of. 

 

6. Dad is so rude! So very rude still! I don’t like that he still goes on and on about not accepting Hongjo. I wish mum would now put Dad firmly in his place. He would change his tune if he knew Hongjo was responsible for the curse being broken. Sorta. Or at least that their destinies finally meeting as it should has made it all well for the family. I was actually expecting some sort of a reveal for that but it never happened!

 

I think when I love a drama, I often have to like a lot of the side characters as well or at least find their humour to sit with mine, but in this drama I didn't really like anyone except for Rowoon/ Jang Sin Yu  I thought I'd end up at least lliking the female lead and I liked her during episode 4-6-ish, but then I felt indifferent to her story and I'm not sure why. Maybe it's because she needed a lot of rescuing. I would have liked to have seen her as being less helpless and more able to deal with the stalke.

I really didn't like the Gong-Ma relationship either. It didn't feel funny, or progress the story or help us to understand the main couple. But there was that on line that the co-worker said which made me laugh during the proposal and that was when she said" "It's not the dreaded public proposal that women hate so much, is it?" And that made me laugh because it's so true. I think I'd die from embarrassment if someone did that to me (and they were meant to know me the best!)  Speaking of the co-workers, I still didn't warm up to them in the end either...sure, they were no longer bullies and were technically her friends. But I feel like they never apologised for being mean to her. They also just seemed to use her to get to guys...and they were soooo cringe. Agan, I'm sure they were meant to be comic reflief, but I felt so embarrassed and annoyed watching them haha. Na Yeon's storyline also felt over the top to me. I think it felt too old school - bully girl who is also cheating with a bad dude while she still wants the main guy and hires the psyho to deal with the main girl? This is like a storyline out of an early 2000's drama  I didn't like her character, but I felt like they could have spent less time on her than give her so much to do in the drama

Anyway, I hope I don't sound too negative - I did enjoy watching Rowoon''s perfomance. It was the first time I was clearly there for Rowoon as a main lead and not for hhis second lead  He was equal parts handsome and also very belivably funny. I felt like he carried the drama. I just wish the storyline and genre was a bit better though. I also wanted to point out that he did a number of very grown up scenes @mademoiselle that were not his usual monk-like scenes. Your boy is a man now 

Hello friends! I'm popping in once again after like a million weeks or so to check in. How is everyone? I know this is an Oppa thread but it turns out the first Korean fan meet I'll ever go to is for an Unnie  I'll be seeing Kim Sejeong when she comes down to Melbourne  I thought it was pretty good of her to goo to Kuala Lumpur, Melbourne and Sydney, so had to support especially since I did enjoy Business Proposal and The Uncanny Counter. But I do wish some of my favourite actors would pop down (though admittedly KSJ is down here for a concert since she's technnically a Kpop star...I just never seem to get into the Kpop idols though). When will they bring my Oppas down to Australia?! 

On 9/13/2023 at 9:14 PM, ktcjdrama said:

Well said @JenL Agree with everything you've written, and I just want to highlight some of them below. 

Oooh I forgot you also watched and liked Someday or One Day  It was nice to see your comments and have someone understand what I meant. I know @Tofu is also a SOOD fan, but I remember her saying she was avoiding this remake because she did not like the casting (Haha, have you decided not to watch at all Tofu? )

On 9/13/2023 at 9:14 PM, ktcjdrama said:

Must also be because I'm not as familiar about those times in Korea compared to Taiwan.

I think this is true - I wouldn't be familiar with the late 90's in Korea as much as I would be in Taiwan. With that said, I heard there was some backlash from Korean fans because A Time Called You actually didn't portray the late 90's in Korea very accurately. It went more for aesthetics rather than true nostalgia and fans called out the series for that.

I think the Korean fans were more hardcore than the Taiwanese fans about this remake! (But I guess it was in theiir culture)

1. https://www.kdramastars.com/articles/131244/20230913/a-time-called-you-backlash-multiple-inaccuracies-shouldve-done-properly.htm 

2. https://www.koimoi.com/korean/a-time-called-you-starring-ahn-hyo-seop-jeon-yeo-been-is-getting-backlash-from-the-audience-for-setting-unrealistic-portrayal-of-korea-viewer-says-seems-like-a-drama-that-only-focuses-on-loo/#:~:text=Korean Entertainment News-,'A Time Called You' Starring Ahn Hyo Seop %26 Jeon,Only Focuses On Looking Pretty”

Also some other translated forums, but can't find the links anymore

On 9/13/2023 at 9:14 PM, ktcjdrama said:

I'm at ep.4 now, and will share my initial impression. Like @JenL, I don't hate it, but I'm not in love with it too (yet?). The K-version definitely has its kdrama traits/elements standing out, so it's quite easy for me not to confuse this version with the original. One thing I notice so far, there's more telling (than showing) that it's easier to follow the plot/timeline. But this could also be because I already watched the original? 

On 9/15/2023 at 10:24 PM, ktcjdrama said:

Anyway... I have completed this drama. I have to say this is a good remake (finally!). Since it is a remake and having seen the original, I couldn’t help but compare when talking about this drama. Like I said earlier, ATCY has its own charm and appeal as a Kdrama. I enjoyed watching this, however, the original is still way above this. Also because I watched it without knowing how it’s gonna end. But really, the original has more soul and hearts and feels with regards to what the characters are going through. 

I've enjoyed reading your thoughts @ktcjdrama because your thoughts are very fair and considerate of both storylines and contexts and also because they mirror so many of my thoughts. I haven't finished yet (Just getting to episode 8), but I have started to warm to the storyline a bit more because as you say, it does have it's own charms and funny moments. It is faithful in the retelling in terms of similarity of events and scenes. It's almost scene for scene. But I definitely agree that it''s missiing the heart and soul of the original series. I think even if I was not a big SOOD fan, I would have still been able to point out why one series was more addictive to fans than the other. 

I also really agree that the Korean series seems to do more telling than showing which is a shame because it seems less realistic (?) when a character says a line that explains a plot line out loud. I think Han Jun Hee says something like "How did I travel through time? I fell asleep with the casette player. Must be the casette" or something really obvious like that which just struck me as odd because in the original the characters didn't know immediately but had to work that out. Anyway, like you, I think the series is watchable and entertaining. But I just don't think it'll be memorable or beloved in the long run. 

On 9/13/2023 at 9:14 PM, ktcjdrama said:

And I just need to get this off my chest... I'm not a fan of the ML's long hair... Why this styling?!!

Hahahaha, was this the older versiion of the ML? He was very shaggy  

On 9/8/2023 at 7:46 PM, mademoiselle said:

Omg, did you have a radar or something? I was just wondering where you were coz you promised to watch and spazz with me.

Hahaha I sometimes sense JH friends summoning me!   I am watching btw! I'm just so busy with work/ arm injury / social life/ watching 4 dramas/ recording podcasts / trying to keep up on drama news & JH....that I struggle to balance everything  But just know that I'm watching and will spazz especially if you tag me (I'll eventually get back to youuuu). I'm definitely still watching and enjoying the series. I caught up llate last week and I actually really like this show from episode 4. Rowoon has been fantastic this whole time but female lead becomes so much 

On 9/8/2023 at 7:46 PM, mademoiselle said:

And yes, how hot is Rowoon in this drama? Agreed he's on fire in here! He did try very hard to stay pretty and keep his weight down when he filmed this drama but he couldn't stop himself pigging out in House on Wheels when Jae Wook and Hye Yoon were with him. Haha.

Rowoon is killing me in this series. Why is he so hot and simaltaneously so funny?  Hahaha he tried hard to stay pretty? I thought it was just his natural way of being  He slayed me in Episode 4. I couldn't help but laugh at his cool-guy-but-desperately-cursed-lovelorn antics. I have never been so charmed with Rowoon as I have been in this series!

Also I feel guilty for saying this but I STILL haven't watched House on Wheels yet evenn though I LOVE the EY trio. I'm going to schedule in time to watch it tomorrow !!! It is important content and I feel kinda guilty that I haven't kept up with my boy LJW in awhile

On 9/8/2023 at 7:46 PM, mademoiselle said:

I'm alright with FL and the actress playing her. This is actually the more likable roles I've seen her in. Character set-up wise, I am ok too. I feel like this kind is more acceptable that those where at first they started off being sassy and then later on become meek or a doormat.

 

Her female work mates are horrible. I'm glad the lady boss is nice and stop the bullying.

FL for some reason got better after episode 4. I'm not sure why. Maybe I've just gotten use to her ways. But more likely I think it's because they've stopped making her do as stupid things and given her some more substance. Also they've started to spend more time on other characters like the second leads in order to get the story moving. So I'm finding her A LOT better. I agree with you though - those FL who start out all cool but then turn into a sobbing mess really irritate me. 

I am LOVING the female boss. I mean I haven't caught up on the last few episodes yet, but up until that point she's been so cool - she sees throguh everyone's bad behaviours and calls them out on it! 

Hello all! I'm here watching this as a person who LOVES Someday or One Day so my opinions will probably be a little different. While I wasn't exactly overjoyed when they announced a Korean version, I also wasn''t one of those fans attacking everyone who was looking forward to this and saying the original should not be tainted or anything like that. I knew it would probably be milked for it's popularity, so no point getting upset when there's also going to be a Mainland remake as well. I was also quite curious about what they would do with the story and liked the idea that maybe if people were open to watching the original, then it could bring more people into the Someday or One Day fandom or get people into watching the modern day Taiwanese dramas which have improved a lot....The original series, Someday or One Day, had a pretty crazy following in Korea anyway - I witnessed this when the Taiwanese movie sequel for Someday or One Day was launched in Korea. A huge number of Koreans even started learning Chinese to understand the actors better etc. So I guess if anyone would give a fair evaluation of this remake it would be the Korean fans themselves. I think there's also fans who will enjoy both because even though they loved SOOD, they also love these Korean actors, which is fair enough.

Episode 1-2

My thoughts so far is that A Time Called You is ok. I don't hate it, but I don't love it either so far. Would I have loved it more if it wasn't a remake of SOOD? Hard to say. It's a nice enough drama and the actors are doing a good job - obviously they're both talented and have a huge following already, so I expect most people will like the characters as well. I'm not a huge fan of either main actor for the remake, but to be fair, I also wasn't a huge fan of Alice Ke or Greg Hsu before I started watching Someday or One Day either, but I loved their acting and chemistry and the way they portrayed their characters that I became a bigggggg fan of them both from that drama. Maybe it'll happen for this series too? 

In a funny way, I think this drama might actually catch all the fans who weren't exactly a fan of Someday or One Day. Even though the drama is going through the same central events as SOOD, it does have a very different tone which is not bad per say, but doesn't capture what I (and I suspect a majority of the SOOD fans) truly loved about the original series. But what a lot of fans loved may be what other people didn't (I just glanced at @mademoiselle's comments above and I can already see where we differ, but will reply later in a different comment because this is going to be a long one in itself!). So I think this drama doesn't have to be a carbon copy of the original. And I'm trying to apprciate the project as a drama in it's own rights - there are some scenes I like in this drama which were not in the original which I'll talk about below as well. But I will talk about some overarching changes/ differences with characters and moments that I think are the reasons I was hooked on SOOD from Episode 2, but not so with this series. Again, I don't hate this series - it's a series I'm watching, but I haven't felt compelled and wanting more the way I felt when watching the original. My bias are obviously: I already know how this story unfolds (so maybe not as exciting for me), I already have a strong reference to the original story/ characters/ stories. But I'm also feeling that even if I had no idea what SOOD/ or the original series was like, I still don't think it would be an addictive series for me, though I'd find it enjoyable.

Things I liked:

I think it's quite pretty - Korean cinematography is nice. The original was quite dreamy and definitelly pretty. But the Korea version has brought it's own aesthetic scenes. I think stuff like the cherry blossom scene when they were having that talk about the hearing aids was nice. I think they've styled Anh Hyo Seop to look mighty fine (Hahaha...the scene with the abs was definitely not in the original!). Sometimes I've been confused about Anh Hyo Seop. But he's looking like very much the dream boyfriend here which is essentially this character's main role hahaha. 

Certain scenes play out nicely. That scene where Jeon Yeo Been and Anh Hyo Seop talk at the table and she asks why he made her love him when he was just going to leave her alone was great - the lines existed in the original series, but the scene played out differently. A Time Called You also toned down some of the events in the first episode of Someday or One Day that had a bit more of a Taiwanese Slackstick element like when they go look for Huan Yu Xuan's (FL) collegue's missing dog and end up going to a dodgy fortune teller which is how she first sees Li Zi Wei (ML) on the street even though he's apparently dead...in this version she thinks she sees him at a train station which I thought was actig a decent change. 

Things I don't know if I like/ didn't quite like:

With that said, I'm not feeling as moved by this drama and I think it's in part because it's missing that deeply nostalgic element. They have indicated that one time line is 1998, but if I wasn't paying much attention, I wouldn't have really noticed because both time lines look so stylised and modern. But in Someday or One Day, 1998 is super retro and noticeable because it's so daggy. The record store and the shops and their houses are super telling of the times. The characters even dress super daggy and use the slang of that time - even if they hadn't written the year on the screen, I would have known because I could remember doing the same things, wearing the same clothes etc. The drama was also tied together by a song with very moving lyrics and very iconic to those times. I don't know if this drama has introduced their song yet, but I'm not sure if it'll have quite the same feel. 

In terms of the characters, I'm trying to differente Anh Hyo Seop's Koo Yeon Jun to Greg Hsu's Li Zi Wei. I feel like Koo Yeon Jun is quite reserved compared to the original character - Li Zi Wei is more realistically a teenager boy - And a charismatic and rougish and smart talking guy at that. Like one of those guys who is cheeky to teachers and sometimes puts their foot in it because they speak before they think, who is cool because they don't care about getting in trouble if it means protecting their friends, but well liked because they tease/ joke with everyone in a friendly way, but has a heart of gold, is brave and is deeply loyalty to their quiet friends who they bring out of their shells. So far, they've tried to show this, but Koo Yeon Jun is quite vanilla and much more reserved. He's definitely the heart of gold, loyal friend, but the character isn't as funny or as realistic a teenager as the character in the original. Part of the charm of the original story is how much Li Zi Wei (ML) matures and learns about himself and what love means when he meets the FL (I have avoided giving spoilers as to the context of how he meets the FL), but I agree with a few comments I've read where I don't think this will come out as strong in this series, where he is already more reserved. To a lesser degree, I also feel that about Jeo Yeo Been's Han Jun Hee and Alice's Huang Yu Xuan (the adult version of the FL). I'm not going to say yet because it hasn't gotten past the crucial point yet (can't say more or I'll spoil things) and maybe this will be shown eventually. But so far, it feel liks Han Jun Hee is much more mild when the original Huang Yu Xuan was quite spirited, assertive and charismatic - one of those people who doesn't have to try hard to be liked because they're flexible and carefree. The character that I've had to try my hardest not to compare is the second MLs. I can't help but feel like the second lead in A Time Called You has no personal character yet. In the original, he was reserved, but still tried to bring out the FL who was even more timid than himself. He also had a more convincing friendship - like they would show the 2 leads talking or plotting how to bring the FL on their adventures...in this series so far, I haven't seen ML and second ML lead talk unless ML tells him to talk to the girl (which is true to the original, but they had more conversations and jokes aside from that?).  

Another reason I feel less moved: they also got rid of a lot of the nice relationship scenes in the original which made you understand the backstory of just how good a relationship the main characters had. Like here, the birthday scene was he gave her flowers and a cake the year before. In the original they show a montage of how he celebrated her birthday each year for several years and he always did very meaningful things, not just give her gifts - he planned a surprise party which her friends and family, he dressed up in a character costume and they had play fights with cake because he brought out her silly side, one year they fought and he still celebrated her birthday, stuff like that etc. So by episode 2, I was also griving a dead boyfriend of several years that I had never had. In A Time Called You I understand logically that he's passed away and he was a good boyfriend, but I don't feel quite so sad because I have less details to go by and less meaningful moments/flashbacks? Feels a little like they show the surface level without as much depth? 

Anyway, I think a lot of people will have different opinions on the series which is fine, everyone has different tastes and likes different actors/ styles. I'm not trying to convince anyone to like either series more or less - but just exploring both shows, I can see what appealed to me and made SOOD a crack drama to me personally. But this might be a crack drama to someone else, so I'm not judging this drama to others. Just me and other SOOD fans I guess  Also plenty of time to see how the drama unfolds. I will laugh if I turn out to really love this drama too a few more episodes in.

@mademoiselle I haven't read through the thread yet coz I'm still 2 episodes behind...But I'm watching and up to episode 3! I can't really tell if I enjoy the storyline yet, but I'll tell you what I do enjoy? Rowoon  Damn, I don't know what it is, but he is on fire in this drama. I think it's a combination of: 1. He's in a suit the whole time 2. While I'm not a big fan of the cold CEO type who is mean to the girl at first, I feel like his character is not that old stereotype- he's not really mean, just more deadpan and sarcastic which is fun/funny and I personally really like these charactertistics 3. Rowoon's acting has improved a lot of the years and he's more convincing now  He's already adopted, but maybe he'll scale the tiers in my eyes from this drama 

As for the rest of the drama, I'm unsure of how I feel about it just yet. I'm curious about the curse and back story (especially since I never read a synopsis about this drama), but why is Jang Sin Yu being molested by a bloody red hand?! It's so weird. I do also find the female lead character a bit much so far. Not due to acting, but due to the fact I've never been a fan of the ditzy girl trope. There are times when a character toes the line of ditzy, but I warm to them if they're more fun and bubbly than an airhead. However, if the antics are too silly, then all I want to do is cringe (eg. when she mistaked Jang Sin Yu as a grim reaper and when she decided to do a love potion)..I feel conflicted because I don't hate her, but I find the cringe factor a bit too much and it kinda puts me off. I'm annoyed by her work mates too. But I'll continue to watch because Rowoon is the hottest I've seen him yet (which is important to a drama, right? )

On 8/7/2023 at 8:45 PM, Chocolate said:

I like these fights 🤣 People get so crazy, everyone thinks they are right and it's just mayhem. I'm also curious how some people think and how they arrive at their conclusion.

 

There was a long-time HB fan who provided a lot of translations, information etc on the BinJin thread. Suddenly one day, she stopped and went to post on the BinKyo thread instead! So I tried to engage her. Here is our "conversation" lol. After BinJin was confirmed, she dropped HB. Changed everything and went to support some other celebrity. So we all know now that she was one of those crazy ones who only liked HB when he is single. And the reason she switched to BK was because she could see that BJ was likely real and couldn't take it.

I don't like fan fights - I think it sometimes gets to the point of online harrassment/ bullying which is not ok. But it is funny sometimes when people make claims without having any evidence or pretending they know the celebrity or something wilde like that 

As for that HB fan, I think it would have been ok if she's just a HB fan without shippiing, but kinda weird that she went from one ship thread to another? 

On 8/7/2023 at 8:45 PM, Chocolate said:

 

I thought there was only 1 requirement: MALE.

 

Hahahaha I actually laughed out loud when I read this 

On 8/7/2023 at 9:35 PM, mademoiselle said:

 

Hahahaha! Are you saying this because you are mostly sitting on the sidelines watching the fights? Because when one is entangled into it or singled out by these crazy people/trolls, it's no where near fun.

 

This user, I know the DP but I don't remember it is linked to this username though. I am shocked you wrote to her and asked her so directly! But it's actually normal for someone like her to spend time in the shipper threads. I've seen it for PSH's and LMH's shipper threads. Their intentions, to what they believed, were to provide unbiased information to the shippers because they don't want the delulu shippers twisting the interviews' translations in the favour of their ship(s). In her defense, shippers do tend to zoom in on certain words and start hallucinating 😅 up there's breadcrumb. In her case, she must be gutted that BJ is real and she was so so so wrong, hey? You must be like, "Ha!" This is a huge OUCH on her part, as a veteran fan. This conversation affirms my belief i.e., to never assume you know your Oppa 101% = keep adopting Oppa, no need to stick to one and put all the eggs in one basket.

Mmm you make good points. I've totally had people zoom in on the things I've said before even though I aways applying huge caveats to my points of view. I like to analyse things and look at them from both side or talk about possibilities but also remind people to think about this with a grain of salt. Although I don't think it's wise to be delulu, I understand the fun of really liking a pairing and I still like to celebrate my favourite pairings when I'm really into them, so I also do not support 'anti' culture. 

Yeah and I agree, you never know any of your favourite celebrities in real life so best to never act like you do so you're not in for a bad surprise if any rumour proves true 

On 8/7/2023 at 9:35 PM, mademoiselle said:

 

This is the second kiss? @JenL @SilverMoonTea

A bit late, but yes, that was 2nd kiss. Now I'm just left being sad about this drama...

I need new dramas. What's on at the moment @mademoiselle and @abs-oluteM? What would you recommend? Haha, are you going to try to sell me something @SilverMoonTea?

Sorry in all my house moving times and rage about the Heartbeats ending, I realised that I've forgotten to get back to a whole bunch of messages! Time to get typing...

On 8/7/2023 at 6:34 PM, mademoiselle said:

@JenL This thread does get spied on by lurkers. I hope people don't make judgement based on a few pages of our conversations, and respect our views even though they disagree.

 

What's your last internet fight experience? I remember you had one before - was it Lee Jae Wook's stan? Agree it's energy consuming and not worth wasting energy on confrontation. May be a different story if they pick a fight with you in your territory e.g., blog or your bird posts.

Hahaha I feel like there might be some passer bys who will make some judgements on us, but they don't know us  To be honest, we're generally pretty fair and not too delusional. I think even when we fangirl and get excited about our favourites, or are not fans of someone, we're not extremists so I think we're ok. 

As for internet fights, I don't think I've had too many, though I like to state my opinion and sometimes that can be taken the wrong way by someone because I substantiate my points very strongly when I make them  I'm ok if the other person doesn't agree with me. But I'm not ok if the other person starts to make things personal/ gets abusive about me or the things/ people I like just because we have different points of view  

Hahaha, I did have one with LJW's stan...but then we made up and became Twitter friends  I think she just misunderstood something I said but later on appreciated the effort I went through to translate a bunch of LJW's interviews etc. So we're ok now 

On 8/7/2023 at 6:34 PM, mademoiselle said:

Jo Byung Kyu - the accuser resides in NZ and refused to come to Korea for police investigation so it's hard to verify. I reckon the accuser doesn't really have solid hard-copy evidence to prove he was bullied. I can't imagine JBK physically bullying someone or threatened someone coz he is tiny.

Wow didn't realise that person lived in NZ and not Korea. I wonder if it was more a personal thing like they just didn't get along and that other person just wanted to get revenge that way. My friend was saying someone she knew was hosting 2 Japanese students at their house and the 2 boys had a fight because one was quiet and sennsitive and the other was very talkative and sometimes silly. So they just offended each other because they were not each other's cup of tea. It could have been something like that 

On 8/7/2023 at 6:34 PM, mademoiselle said:

The Uncanny Counter 2 - Glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks the villains reminds us of Batman! Only KKY reminds me of Batman's villain though, not really the other two. But it's kinda cool he is able to replicate the essence of Batman's villain (Christopher Nolan's style not the older Batman villains). But there is always a problem with Batman's villains. The villains always become the scene stealer because they are so unique vs the good guys. So I do think this time round, the Counters are being overshadowed by the villains.

Hahaha I thought all 3 of the villains from Uncanny Counter looked like Batman villains.

Kang Ki Young= Looks kinda like The Penguin/ Joaquin Pheonix's Joker

Kim Hyun Wook = Looks like Jared Leto's Joker

Kim Hieora = Reminds me of Harley Quin (No specific version...just unhinged and crazy villainess vibes)

I feel like the villains are scene stealers in their own rights...but I think the Counters are equally fun and kooky characters especially when they're together. Their cast chemistry and counter chemistry is super silly and warm. As for the villains, I like that they're strong and apply a lot of pressure to the main characters, which allows for fast and exciting pacing. 

On 8/7/2023 at 6:34 PM, mademoiselle said:

Taecyeon - Wait, he looks like a normal human being from all the stills I've seen. What vampire look? Are you a fan of Twilight and Interview with the Vampire back in the days?

Taecyeon's vampire look was the period era suits and hair style - similar to the latest version AMC's Interview with a vampire . I love that era of style where guys looked so put together. I don't like Taecyeon's normal hairstyle as much as when he has it styled up...he looks so good when it's styled up 

I didn't mind the original Interview with a vampire or the book version, but I love the new TV series. Lestat is played by an Australian actor, Sam Reid, who is so charming. One of my non Asian Oppas 

Hahaha I had a hate-love relationship with Twilight. I couldn't stop reading the books (which I guess means it was exciting to me at the time) and I enjoyed the premise of the story about meeting some vampirres in a boring small town, but I found Bella incredibly terrible as a heroine. She seemed to look down on everyone around her except the pretty vampires, but everyone seemed to like her even though she was so judgy. She had not personality and no faults - her only traits seemed to revolve around loiving Edward. Also the storytelling was incredibly badly wriitten and fanfic like. I couldn't believe these anicient vampires were afraid of her. And there was no battle scenes - she'd just conveniently faint or something when a battle took place. Thinking about that book still makes me mad  

On 8/7/2023 at 6:34 PM, mademoiselle said:

Jasper & Alice - LOL, I was looking for English news at first but couldn't find it. Why is that? What about you, @SilverMoonTea. It's your ex-Oppa, would you check this out?

 

I have to admit  haven't actively looked (Just been so busy with woork lately). But I hope to soon! I saw that Jasper posted photos with Alice and the cast so it's definitely been a thing. It warms my heart that my favourites are working together though 

On 8/7/2023 at 6:34 PM, mademoiselle said:

Hwang Min Hyun - Does @SilverMoonTea has a type? She's the most random person I've ever known,

 

On 8/6/2023 at 11:42 PM, SilverMoonTea said:

 

I like how the fellow Haven here seems to know me better even than my own self  But yes bingo, so my type.

Hahaha Tea does have a type that she likes, though not everyone she likes is part of the type...But if there's a guy of this type, she will definitely fall for him at least for 5 mins  I feel like the type is like effeminate and refined (if you understand Chinese : the 斯文 type)

On 8/6/2023 at 11:42 PM, SilverMoonTea said:

 

Oh yes you described well with everything went wrong with that amusement park date, including the child actor. I was thinking he's so awkward but I just brushed it off and give him some slack because of his young age 😅 And yes too bad Taecyeon was a bit overboard indeed there haha.... Should I retract the adoption? 😆 I'm also back with my old DP Cheng Yi haha... 

 

I'm sad that the amusement park date put you off my vampire...it was not the best directing/ editing/ acting on that episode, but still a good pair overall. But I guess it saved you the horrror of watching this drama ending!!! 

On 8/7/2023 at 7:02 PM, SilverMoonTea said:

 

I think I like pretty and lean oppa, those with small & tall nose bridge, pretty fingers and fair skin 🤔 With those manga hairstyle is more preferable.  This is like writing a requirement for job application, how to become silvermoon oppa 😅

 

Not to fret much, if can't make the cut as above, with great acting chop everything is possible.

 

But yeah actually idk why @JenL think HMH will be the one 😂 please explain. 

Hahaha I thought HMH was your type because he's very slender, pale, tall, piano-fingered and refined looking 

On 8/7/2023 at 7:15 PM, mademoiselle said:

 

I can't put a fixed requirement for Oppa but in general, 98% of mine is flower boy type which I'm sure everybody knows that already (good looks appeal more mah) and I do have some in the mix that has looks that are of acquired taste e.g., Lee Jong Suk and Kim Woo Bin. I find on-screen charm is important factor too.

I don't know if I have a type either! I know iin real life, there's been some guys that looked like Yoon Park 

But my Oppa tastes vary - Jasper, Lee Jae Wook, Lee JeHoon, Taecyeon, Greg Hsu are all verrry dfferent. I feel like I like guys that can be equal parts cool and charming, but also very funny and silly. I think that's my type